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05 Jan 2007, 11:25 pm

Yes I have worked out it annoys you, and the only reason your brining it up, I can see exactly how much it is annoying you...

Troll? yada yada yada is that you’re come back? If that is what you want to hear then yes, but the truth is I don't care if I stick - or ... If the person wants to correct it just visually turn it into a , .

I really think your overreacting & I can see how much it annoys you (Now)...


Funny part is a stick it into word and it does not correct the - to a ,


Can I get a grammar correction please – come on get a grammar correction – grammar – if I don’t get a grammar I am going to kill this word.



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05 Jan 2007, 11:35 pm

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Yes I have worked out it annoys you, and the only reason your brining it up, I can see exactly how much it is annoying you...

Troll? yada yada yada is that your come back? If that is what you want to hear then yes, but the truth is I don't care if I stick - or , ... If the person wants to correct it just visualy turn it into a , .

I really think your overreacting & I can see how much it annoys you (Now)...


I just think its arrogant for you to expect others to do half of the work for you, and if they don't to belittle them. Its sad. If that's what helps you sleep at night, I won't take it from you further. It isn't about punctuation alone, and in fact it isn't about your typing at all. Your "message" is clear, you think you're better than others and you treat them as such. The content was my cause for irritation, not the packaging. If I was overreacting about that, so be it.



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05 Jan 2007, 11:56 pm

I do not think I am better than other's that is just your view, it is not my view.

I know I am not better than other's, only thing I see are people taking it the wrong way.

They got the most powerful Engine in the world & people seem to think thing's affect them differently than an NT does, all I am doing is providing them with a link to the information of the effects on people... Would that mean that they lazy, I go out just to get the link to show what it is instead of turning it into my own word's or even so how can you ask if something effect's an NT the same as a As when you need a NT to make that view & I have not seen much NTs...

I don't make that view of them been lazy... If you read some people said it was not affecting them, if you read they posts to the site link information, you will see it is affecting them in 1 of the listed effects of the thing. I just take the time away from them searching and stick the link they.

Sometimes I do take some of the text out of the link coz I know they not reading it just to take a little look as since the NT part is missing from the convo.

Does not make me better, I totally suck at general knowledge; you could say I am ret*d at it.



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06 Jan 2007, 12:16 am

My view is based upon your presentation. I stopped talking about Google and the like long ago. In the last post I mentioned it wasn't really your typing that bothered me. How am I supposed to take it if you type in an unconventional way and then attack me, and others, for saying it is difficult to read over? I've said before, and I'll say it again, your punctuation, or lack thereof, is not the major cause of difficulty in trying to quickly read through your posts.

If you type in a way that is far from conventional, you shouldn't be surprised if not everyone has the easiest time reading it. If I slowly read your posts, I can get a general idea for most of them, but there are still sections that simply don't make a whole lot of sense. With the words you've substituted, the meaning is downright ambiguous at times. For you to then act as if anyone who cannot read your post is lacking in intelligence is rather unfair. If you don't mean to be, that's fine, but that's how that action is being read by me, and at least a couple others. Perhaps not everyone, but I wouldn't call that "taking it the wrong way." I'm done trying to insult back, since I'm not in the business of attacking you in the first place, and since your last post was mostly civil, though at one or two times phrased in such a way to make it sound like you are trying to talk down to me.

When you have posted links, you have at times phrased it in a way that presents "You don't know that much about this. You should get educated and read this." Some will take that as insulting, as talking down to them. If you don't mean it as such, you can either tell them they're taking it the wrong way, putting the blame on them, or you can try to make the most minor alterations to make it more positive. People react better to positive things. Those that may have gotten irritated by you in the past would instead be thanking you for your help. The same thing can be said about the typing. You've made it clear that you can type in a way that is easy enough to read without having to slow down one's normal rate of reading just to make sure they get what you mean. If you have good stuff to add, why not do it that way?

Again, this has nothing to do with simple punctuation. Looking at what you have typed in the last post, it isn't even that you're lazy. Maybe you simply type differently, and it does take noticeable effort for you to type "closer" to how everyone else does. At times I wonder if you have as much difficulty understanding what I'm saying as I have had understanding what you are saying, and I don't mean that as an attack or insult, merely a possibility. A possibility of difference, not a shortcoming on your behalf, or mine. I'm not saying that you should change who you are (or how you type) to "fit in", as an NT might tell an Aspie they need to change simply to fit in. This isn't about fitting in. Its about facilitating communication. I have no problem if you don't agree with me. I have no problem if you think I'm flat out wrong about some things. I simply want to be sure I understand what it is that you're saying, as do others.



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06 Jan 2007, 2:31 am

Indeed - you speak for many!
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06 Jan 2007, 8:30 am

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"You don't know that much about this. You should get educated and read this." Some will take that as insulting, as talking down to them.


Only people who are self-centered or only want to hear 1 thing & if it's not that you will feel insulted, If you read the word's I use before, you will see it's not an insult.. I am honestly to the extent of rudeness pointing out that you are lacking & I try to put my point of view across...

(EXP:-)
If I wanted to insult you I would say "Your too Dumb to understand that your thick as hell, You are an idiot, read this coz your education is *cough* " so on, I would be insulting you then...

/*
I am just honestly pointing out something, If you ask if this effect's nts the same as Aspies - unless you have the (NTs) "Point of View" you will take it wrong, I just add in they convo to finish the link, they asked if it effects them the same as Nts, I honestly pointed out it does...

I am not saying read this as your education sucks, I am giving you a link so you can see if it effect's people the same as an Aspie.. or the hole depth of a word so on...
*/

Know you guys have insulted As trait's on me about more than I can count,

Been Pedantic,
Seem argumentative,
Can be honest to the extent of bluntness or rudeness,
so on...

/*
I am honestly pointing out you are literally taking it the wrong way, and until you understand the context of what they saying you will feel insulted, I am just pointing you out to they "Point of View", hell it took 3 professionals to get it across to me - but I did not feel insulted because I saw the other persons Point of View at the (end)...
*/

/*
I see 1 thing that mainly is lacking, Finds it difficult to see or imagine another person's point of view...
*/

You don't see me going on and on about you and mistake’s you make, Is not my fault that you can not accept that you do lack in certain areas, denial is something that can blind you in this area. And the only way to get the point of view across until someone understands that your taking the context of the word wrong & see it as an insult will happen, if you only want to hear 1 thing, I could point out some spelling and grammar error's in your writing shad, but I don’t why because I over look it…

/*
You should get educated and read this.
*/

Now that is only what your view is and you are taking it the wrong way - If you cannot take criticism don't dish it out... I take your crit but when I dish it out you go into a fit over it...



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06 Jan 2007, 9:45 am

logitechdog wrote:
Only people who are self-centered or only want to hear 1 thing & if it's not that you will feel insulted, If you read the word's I use before, you will see it's not an insult.. I am honestly to the extent of rudeness pointing out that you are lacking & I try to put my point of view across...

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make much sense to me. You say it isn't an insult, then you say it is to the point of rudeness. Others here have said they have similar views to me already. You said you weren't great at knowledge, yet you link to sites. Again, maybe I'm taking it the wrong way, along with others, but it seems rather hypocritical to inform when you admit to being uninformed.
logitechdog wrote:
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If I wanted to insult you I would say "Your too Dumb to understand that your thick as hell, You are an idiot, read this coz your education is *cough* " so on, I would be insulting you then...

People can't always know this simply by reading what you write. Everyone is biased in some way, and everyone's perspective will differ. Now that you've told us this directly, it will be easier to appreciate that.

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I am just honestly pointing out something, If you ask if this effect's nts the same as Aspies - unless you have the (NTs) "Point of View" you will take it wrong, I just add in they convo to finish the link, they asked if it effects them the same as Nts, I honestly pointed out it does...

This could imply, based upon punctuation (I'm saying it because I don't' want to take it the wrong way) that if someone takes what you say wrong, then they have the NT perspective. You say you will be direct if you attack someone, but you have used the whole NT thing as an insult / attack in the past. If I'm simply misinterpreting this, please let me know.

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I am not saying read this as your education sucks, I am giving you a link so you can see if it effect's people the same as an Aspie.. or the hole depth of a word so on...
*/

You have linked things frequently, yet at least in my reading, so link me to an example if I'm way off base here, you haven't really given personal examples. Most people on here do that, so I hope you can understand that it could be taken the wrong way if that's the perceived image of you. Again, I could be way off here, I admit that. This is more thinking out loud than anything else on the last quote.

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Know you guys have insulted As trait's on me about more than I can count,

Been Pedantic,
Seem argumentative,
Can be honest to the extent of bluntness or rudeness,
so on...

There's no need to get defensive over that. You act like, because people can't always "handle" such traits, that they are insulting those traits specifically, or you specifically. If you get argumentative, others might get argumentative back. That's part of it. There's nothing wrong with book learning, I've got whole areas of "what I know" that are entirely limited to that. That's why I often warn people about it, lest they think I have tons of experience there. Last thing I want to do is give them that impression. And the honesty, I have no problem with honesty, you acted aggressive and defensive at the same time so I offered a couple ideas on how to have people respond more positively to you by you responding more positively to them. You could still be plenty blunt in doing so.

logitechdog wrote:
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I am honestly pointing out you are literally taking it the wrong way, and until you understand the context of what they saying you will feel insulted, I am just pointing you out to they "Point of View", hell it took 3 professionals to get it across to me - but I did not feel insulted because I saw the other persons Point of View at the (end)...
*/

I don't think you fully appreciate the point of views of the people that have been irritated by you on here. Maybe I'm wrong.

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I see 1 thing that mainly is lacking, Finds it difficult to see or imagine another person's point of view...
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You don't see me going on and on about you and mistake’s you make, Is not my fault that you can not accept that you do lack in certain areas, denial is something that can blind you in this area. And the only way to get the point of view across until someone understands that your taking the context of the word wrong & see it as an insult will happen, if you only want to hear 1 thing, I could point out some spelling and grammar error's in your writing shad, but I don’t why because I over look it…

I got irritated by how I was perceiving you to be, to the point that I came off as being irritated by your spelling. I've admitted to that elsewhere. I'm not trying to tell you to "correct your typing," merely saying that at times it is very hard to understand you because of it. I can't help it if I (and others) don't fully understand you, or understand you wrong, if that's the case. That's no more my fault than it is yours. Furthermore, you are being more than blunt here, whether you admit it or not. "Is not my fault that you can not accept that you do lack in certain areas, denial is something that can blind you in this area." is more than simply aggressive and blunt. Its an attack against the person. It also echoes something I said when I was angry, something I regret saying in the first place now. I don't mind being corrected, and I often appreciate it. Your "corrections" of me seem to be more of a "You should understand me better" nature than anything else. I don't doubt I've made spelling and grammar mistakes at times, believe me, I edit them if I can. It irritates the hell out of me when I make them, because that's a mistake on my part. It really doesn't bother me enough to correct other people on it simply for that reason alone. You will notice this if you look at other posts I have made. If I flat out can't understand someone, for whatever reason, I will say so. I don't want to answer them in a way that completely misreads what they were asking. It really isn't about me being a grammar nazi.

logitechdog wrote:
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You should get educated and read this.
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Now that is only what your view is and you are taking it the wrong way - If you cannot take criticism don't dish it out... I take your crit but when I dish it out you go into a fit over it...


I haven't gone into a fit in the last two posts. I'm merely trying to discuss things with you. You may not believe it, but I'm quite calm right now. I'm not the only one who has taken things from you in this way, or similar. You admitted to it yourself. That doesn't make us at fault, its merely a communication issue. You really haven't taken my criticism any better than I have though, you sound rather agitated in this last post, and that's not my desire. I've said that. If I can't manage to speak with you in a way that doesn't agitate you, I'd rather not do it at all.

That, and your criticism, like I have said, has been limited to an issue of me not being able to have the imagination to "get into your shoes." I have tried. My last post gave possibilities. Maybe I didn't hit the nail on the head, but I admitted to that possibility as well. I've also had less to go on in previous posts of yours, because you weren't always as direct as you claim to be. The less one can understand what you are trying to say, the harder it will be for them to guess at where you are coming from. Your criticism also followed your admitting that you couldn't immediately see someone else's point of view. Is it not at least a little unfair to expect more of me (and others) than you were able to manage yourself?

I hope you haven't taken any of this in the wrong way, you just seem awful defensive over this discussion.



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06 Jan 2007, 10:11 am

"Extent" #

S: (n) extent (the point or degree to which something extends) "the extent of the damage"; "the full extent of the law"; "to a certain extent she was right"

General knowledge.

S: (n) public knowledge, general knowledge (knowledge that is available to anyone)

See 2 words you have taken the wrong way and twisted it into your own view & not what my view was...

I did not say knowledge, I said General you see why I keep saying you don't pay attention to the word before the one your reading...


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Maybe this will help you to understand my view of General knowledge,

http://eluzions.com/Puzzles/Quizzes/General1/ ( 1 to 12 is General Knowledge) - ( The rest are subject catagories - which is sub-catagories of General Knowledge) which then I am good at...
*/


Did not write a new post...

http://www.pdcnet.org/pdf/ijap201-Westacott.pdf ( The Rights and Wrongs of Rudeness ) Know you want it in my own word's but put it this way will you even understand it if I don't write it exactly like this...)



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06 Jan 2007, 10:14 am

logitechdog wrote:
"Extent" #

S: (n) extent (the point or degree to which something extends) "the extent of the damage"; "the full extent of the law"; "to a certain extent she was right"

General knowledge.

S: (n) public knowledge, general knowledge (knowledge that is available to anyone)

See 2 words you have taken the wrong way and twisted it into your own view & not what my view was...

I did not say knowledge, I said General you see why I keep saying you don't pay attention to the word before the one your reading...


I misunderstood you, I'll admit that. The difficulty is that Google makes the knowledge "available to everyone." You however have assumed that I do not understand the definition of extent. I have that down. That is the kind of thing that can make people believe you are simply attacking them, as definitions of words could be considered general knowledge. If you are merely correcting me to try and irritate me though, I'm a little dissapointed. I was hoping that at this point we could stay above that kind of thing. I'm hoping you at least considered, if not appreciated, the rest of what I said in the last post, since you only really addressed an example of me misunderstanding you. I thought I had explained how that can tend to happen, but I may not have done as good of a job as I needed to.



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09 Jan 2007, 9:30 am

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PDD NOS Nobody with other with this?

Not me, I'm HFA.

So, I wonder how many PDD-NOSs and how many HFAs there actually are on WP?