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Jont
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27 May 2006, 8:25 am

drinking is great, it calms my nerves gets rid of all my anxiousness/neverousness all my worries fly out the window.it gives one hell of a confidence boast.

only thing is my relationship with my GF has suffered severly becuase of this it would have been 3 years this september, if i hadnt gone and chucked it all away. to many times have i been insanely drunk and cheated,now shes lost and I don't think thigns will ever be the same again.so yeah being drunk is great but don't screw over the people close to you.

by the way im Jon new around here didnt know such places exhisted!



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01 Jun 2006, 12:18 pm

I act too social and end up saying a lot of things I regret.

But it kills my anxiety and I actually feel normal when I drink.

When I'm stoned I just get even more paranoid.



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02 Jun 2006, 2:39 pm

Well it's now been a month since I got back on the piss (working in a pub will do that to you), but I still haven't got drunk yet. Hoping to keep it that way. I'm insane enough when I'm sober.

PS - Welcome aboard Jont :D


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02 Jun 2006, 6:22 pm

Alcohol makes me depressed, which isn't surprising considering it's a depressant. So I don't drink it, even though it does lower my social anxiety. I've done some dumb things in the past while drunk, mostly having to do with the effect it has on my mood.



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02 Jun 2006, 7:30 pm

jmoney wrote:
I act too social and end up saying a lot of things I regret.

But it kills my anxiety and I actually feel normal when I drink.

When I'm stoned I just get even more paranoid.


Exactly the same for me...

I become so extrovert when I drink and I feel extremly bad afterwards. I prefer to keep my thoughts and feelings for my self. I’ m an introvert and I like it!! I enjoy keeping things for my self.



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14 Jun 2006, 5:45 am

Booze is almost the only thing I've tried that realy kills the anxiety for me. Infact after quite a bit I feel almost normal 8O . Here's the things that work for me from weakest to strongest:
Chamomile Tea
Decaffinated tea - the theanine increases GABA and would be perfect in raw form.
Valerian - good but causes an eerie feeling and nightmares.
Alcohol - unfortunately for my liver I require quite a bit before it starts to work.

Because it's not feasable to drink tea every 10 minutes all day and because of the obvious side effects of alcohol I'm not satisfied with any of these.

Nevertheless, I quite enjoy a bottle of wine or brandy while watching late TV on a weekend. Once drunk I write lyrics and poetry that probably only I will ever see. On the rare occasion that I hit the clubs, someone always says "you need to drink more, we'll get you talking". Sometimes it works but NO amount of alcohol ever allows me to dance.

Does anyone know a viable alternative to alcohol that actually works, preferably for longer than an hour or two? I've never had valium or been stoned, but strictly theoretically, are there better alternatives than alcohol?



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14 Jun 2006, 10:39 am

a1kemi wrote:
Once drunk I write lyrics and poetry that probably only I will ever see.


If you need any music for your lyrics, please let me know. After a prodigious amount of red wine, I tend to get on my computer and start sampling and remixing dance music that nobody will ever hear...due to my incompetence on the lyrical side of things... :wink:


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27 Jun 2006, 12:45 am

autisticon wrote:
The only time I can successfully communicate is:
a) When I'm drunk
b) When I'm stoned

So yes, its normal


sounds like me. i wouldn't call it too successful of communication, though considering the intoxication but verbalizing is certainly a lot easier and the invisible wall is torn down more easily, it seems. though i do notice that i'm probably one of the more aware people when i'm stoned.



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27 Jun 2006, 6:29 am

a1kemi wrote:

Nevertheless, I quite enjoy a bottle of wine or brandy while watching late TV on a weekend. Once drunk I write lyrics and poetry that probably only I will ever see. On the rare occasion that I hit the clubs, someone always says "you need to drink more, we'll get you talking". Sometimes it works but NO amount of alcohol ever allows me to dance.


My sympathies! My dancing and my karaoke appearances ought to be sponsored by Brown Brothers.
a1kemi wrote:

Does anyone know a viable alternative to alcohol that actually works, preferably for longer than an hour or two? I've never had valium or been stoned, but strictly theoretically, are there better alternatives than alcohol?


Have you ever tried damiana before? It's a mildly euphoric/aphrodisiac herb that you can get in most organic grocery stores. One heaped teaspoon per pot of tea, I find that the effect is mildly similiar to ecstasy. Mods please note, I do NOT do that stuff anymore!! Be warned though, I've heard other people say they get nightmares from the stuff. Never happened to me, yet. :)



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27 Jun 2006, 4:52 pm

I like the taste of beer (and whisky), but I have been drunk a single time and did not enjoy the experience. That's probably a good thing since my family has a genetic predisposition to alcoholism.

I guess it helps that I didn't drink at all through the worst periods of my depression (and also waited until I was nearly 25... about a month after "the worst periods of my depression" (numb acceptance) finally ended)



Unfortunately it doesn't exactly operate like "liquid courage" for me; sometimes I become even more quiet when drinking.



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30 Jun 2006, 5:58 am

I am amazed that drinking/drugging is not more prevalent and more of a problem in the AS community. So many dealing w/ AS appear to be struggling, and/or undiagnosed and without medications that may help. Alcohol and drugs would be one step to self-medicate. (But then, an Aspie may logically weigh the consequences first).

Is drinking/drugging a big problem in the AS community? And if so, I wonder why we don't hear more about it.

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30 Jun 2006, 9:13 am

I used to have a Drink every Evening, after a long day at Work, when I was at the Factory. I would take s**t from people, all day, every day. I was assigned the Plum Job, which was too easy for me to take seriously. The tough girls who ate at the back of the building would pick on me, all the time because they knew that there was something different about me. The Non-English speaking people were divided in their views and attitudes towards me. I could tell how they saw me, because half of them used the words London, or England when I was close to them, and the other half used the word, Handicapped when I was near them. I'd talk to the ones who honoured me, and I'd ignore the ones who thought that I was Defective. And than there's the Family Stuff. And that's the reason that I used to Drink.



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30 Jun 2006, 9:32 am

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Alcohol and drugs would be one step to self-medicate. (But then, an Aspie may logically weigh the consequences first).


My AS partner has been self-medicating all his life. He went through a 10-year stage of thinking he was an alcoholic, and he's tried every drug he's been able to get his hands on, to try to feel 'normal'. He read as a child about drugs and the ways they make you feel different, and decided that was the answer for him.

He always preferred speed (same kind of thing as Ritalin or Adderall, used sometimes for Aspergers) and when I met him he was always using it, which made him appear really confident. But if that was unavailable, he tried whatever he could find (and got in quite a mess a few times).

Eventually it was a simple prescription painkiller that made him feel ok about himself, without him actually feeling any different physically. He still takes it with his doctor's approval, but it's a placebo by now. He had a typical Aspie obsession with drugs for years, but now he's calmed down and there's no urgency to it.


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30 Jun 2006, 2:20 pm

I am kind of surprised that so many drink. I don't I learned the hard way alcohol effects or even destroys lives. I am not saying everyone that drinks will over due and make poor choices but a lot I have been in contact with do. I will very rarely have a drink, in 4 years I might of had 6 and I have been drunk once

I was very young when I got drunk and lets just say I lost a few friends....lol. The hang over killed me for a week and even now if I even get a little buzzed I get a horrible headache. I absolutely don't like the taste I have no idea how people can drink 95% of what’s out there.


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01 Jul 2006, 11:34 am

I think everyone loosens up when they drink and that's why so many people like to go to the bars: to loosen up and socialize. I hate bars. I hate socializing. I drink alone. Wine tastes great with grilled meat. I love strong flavors. It takes quite a bit of alcohol to affect me. I have been drunk twice in my life and that was two times too many! I hate feeling disoriented or not in control of myself. I do not think that drugs or alcohol of any kind should take the place of healthful living, natural alternatives, or remediation. But if all else fails.........(referring to drugs of the legal kind, of course!)


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