NTs on Forums Always Call Me a Troll

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I pretty much avoid forums because, despite my desire to discuss things (especially rpgs and fantasy fiction) the conformist liberal toolbags on there constantly accuse me of 'trolling', and though I do occasionally engage people who irritate me just to piss them off I never do it facetiously - I quite seriously loathe egalitarianism political and ideological, I really do think most people are boring and I really don't like movies or music (as a rule). Part of this is the 'Poe Effect', and generally only the dominant cult (Humanism in this case) is allowed to be vehement, whe. someone expresses strong ideological or personal values contrary to the official religion they are presumed to be unserious out of hand. However, I don't think this is so much a mistake as a passive-agressive defense mechanism so they don't have to justify their poorly reasoned beliefs. And most persons have very poorly reasoned beliefs, even if they are correct.

Being contrarian and pretty much the opposite of Liberals and Conservatives both (variations on a theme, voting BS is still BS), and because artsy types and hack writers tend to be part of the stupid-left (I loathe Communism, but at least they aren't liberals) it's pretty much impossible to discuss these topics without drawing knee jerk dismissmal of a laughably anti-intellectual sort. Liberals are the new reactionaries and heresy hunters, and I have to say they do a better job than the Inquisition ever did.

Hear! Hear!

My feeling is that WP is supposed to be a support site for people with autism, SUPPORT being the key word, and discussions and expressions of political opinion and/or religious belief (or lack of same) should be checked at the door. There's plenty of hate to go around on the Internet - this place tends to be a haven from that most of the time, it would be nice if we could make that all of the time.

I have no interest in discussing anything but my interests, so tough s**t. People who get offended shouldn't be on the internet.

In order to have a discussion, those having the discussion usually consider their conversation partner's point o view, and usually just not to dismiss it. I am not the best at seeking out others' points of view, but have learned it the hard/didactic way.

I don't do politics, I am more into needle crafts, sharks and riding around on buses along the coast right now, but I get called a troll on forum boards also.

People seem to think I am stirring up trouble for the sake of it when I am not. Only very rarely will I deliberately try to piss someone off and that is only after they have attacked me multiple times and have completely refused to listen to my side of things even though I tried to be reasonable about things.

I get tired of the accusations people make. I hate drama and actually go out of my way to avoid it. Never do I cause trouble for the sake it, someone else always has to start it first.

I am mostly oblivious to people, I am not that interested in the minutia of their existence, I don't find them all that interesting (with a few exceptions ie there are a few people on this board whose posts I very much enjoy reading because I either find them intelligent or funny or both) and don't really care to spend my precious time going out of my way just to irritate them.

I find their tendency to assume that my world revolves around them amusing to a degree. Most of the time I am too busy with my projects to even know what their names are, let alone what goes on in their life.

It is perfectly fine to believe what you believe and be honest about your views, but have you ever heard the expression, "it's not what you say, it's the way that you say it." Sometimes the way we put things across can be too blunt. People feel like they are being attacked and that isn't a very pleasant feeling and if they feel attacked they will attack back like a cornered dog.

I understand that you want them to see your words the way you meant them, as an honest expression of the way you see things, but humans are more complex than that. There is unfortunately an art to expressing an opinion in a way that is more tactful and which will make it more accepted into the stream of conversation.

I don't find it too difficult because I have very passionate tactless parents and I grew up as a mediator. I learned to take what I heard an rephrase it in a more tactful manner. It is something that people on the spectrum really struggle with. And I admit it is baffling that we can't just say what we mean without it being taken the wrong way, but unfortunately that's just the way people are.

So we have two choices:
1. Just say whatever we want and make people angry and get blocked from forums
2. Try and learn to be tactful and contribute to a discussion in a way that doesn't make people feel attacked and encourages them to become engaged with our ideas

And sometimes it is good to ask ourselves:
Does this need to be said?
Does this need to be said by me?
Does this need to be said by me now?

Sometimes the answer is no.

"Support" does not mean "Be in agreement with", because agreeing with someone who is just plain wrong is to perpetuate a lie.

Therefore, disagreeing with a false claim and presenting valid evidence of the truth is not trolling ... otherwise, I could safely accuse anyone who disagrees with this post of being a troll, and press for his or her banishment.

Yeah, it always amazes me a group who professes tolerance can be so intolerant.