"huh" and "what"
Since 15, it's been a pet peeve of mine hearing annoying lil dips**ts act like every thought and emotion that goes through their heads, are the latest greatest scientific invention. They talk too much, too loud, and too enthusiastically. Sometimes they talk too much i get a f*****g headache. (paucity of content). It's f*****g annoying to listen to those ass holes flap their stupidass traps. And then when i try to say the slightest thing, those idiots half listen and grunt "huh" and "what" instead of "excuse me". They act like "huh" and "what" are the etiquette equivalent of "excuse me". They get on my f*****g nerves, s**t. "Excuse me" might not even be in their stupidass vocabulary. When my "parents" were still alive, plenty of times, i asked them to say "excuse me" instead of "ha?" and not once did they do it. Not only that, but they had the nerve to laugh @ me. (rolls eyes). If someone "knew" they had to say "excuse me" instead of just "huh" or "what" maybe they would listen more carefully in the first place, s**t! My "parents" dropped dead in 2020 and 2015 and i still think about their refusal to say "excuse me" several times a day. My former "friends", Anthony T. and Dena, and Cory, all had the nerve to refuse to say "excuse me" instead of "huh" or "what".
Yes, they have freedom of speech, but "actions speak louder than words". If they are not willing to do that simple lil thing, then there is no limit to the number of things they are not willing to do for me. And i do not feel like those idiots "cared" about me. meanwhile, they did whatever the f**k they wanted and insisted they were my "friends" and they "helped" me and "cared" about me. f**k that BS! f**k anthony! f**k dena! f**k cory!
and the home depot employees and customers. been working there over four years. only about four times has someone said "excuse me" to me. idiots often said "huh" and "what". rude, uneducated, curt, entitled, stupid ass holes! but "customer always right". plenty of home depot customers don't speak english, don't listen, don't pay attention. loud music and sometimes have to "talk" to someone far away. and they don't wear hearing aids.
s**t!
It must be very difficult going through life getting upset about stuff like that and hanging onto it for such a long time. Have you found anything helpful when it comes to managing your frustration? “Huh” and “what” are frequently used because they adequately convey the meaning the speaker wants to get across. It’s not necessarily about being poorly educated. The way I talk is very different from the way I write academic papers.
_________________
“The darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.”
— from Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot
princess
"Have you found anything helpful when it comes to managing your frustration?"
i tell myself that precious lil "people" have "freedom of speech".
"pick your battles" is good advice, but some annoying lil dips**ts pick ALL the battles.
"thin line between love and hate". love and hate are not opposites. they are very similar. so when i hate something/someone too much, i think about how "hate" is not a good/bad thing and "love" is not good/bad either. so i try not to "love" or "hate" anyone/anything too much. but, "you can do anything you set your mind to" is not correct, b/c i often fail, even @ the easiest things.
“Huh” and “what” are frequently used because they adequately convey the meaning the speaker wants to get across.
that is one possible reason. there could be plenty of different reasons. another reason: b/c the speaker is too arrogant to say "excuse me". another reason: b/c the speaker's vocabulary does not contain "excuse me".
"It’s not necessarily about being poorly educated." Plenty of academically educated precious lil "people" say "huh", "what", "can you" and are otherwise rude, impatient, entitled, self righteous, and self important. (fine). however, all things equal, it appears to me that the more educated someone is, the more often they say "excuse me" or "sorry". (not a representative sample) (not a controlled experiment).
"It must be very difficult going through life getting upset about stuff like that and hanging onto it for such a long time." "very difficult"? granted. however, plenty of things making my stupidass "life" "very difficult": being chinese and dealing with racism, being transsexual and dealing w/homophobia, earning minimum wage and trying to pay for s**t, being exhausted all the time, PTSD, clinical depression, autism.
Gentleman Argentum
Veteran
Joined: 24 Aug 2019
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,019
Location: State of Euphoria
Yes, they have freedom of speech, but "actions speak louder than words". If they are not willing to do that simple lil thing, then there is no limit to the number of things they are not willing to do for me. And i do not feel like those idiots "cared" about me. meanwhile, they did whatever the f**k they wanted and insisted they were my "friends" and they "helped" me and "cared" about me. f**k that BS! f**k anthony! f**k dena! f**k cory!
and the home depot employees and customers. been working there over four years. only about four times has someone said "excuse me" to me. idiots often said "huh" and "what". rude, uneducated, curt, entitled, stupid ass holes! but "customer always right". plenty of home depot customers don't speak english, don't listen, don't pay attention. loud music and sometimes have to "talk" to someone far away. and they don't wear hearing aids.
s**t!
Now that was an entertaining read. you are getting in your stride, here. Excuse me, but this is praise.
Seinfeld did a bit on "Excuse me?" when someone is a "low talker." His punchline was "You should be saying, 'Excuse YOU,' (because the other person is not talking loud enough to hear).
Perhaps "excuse me" is falling out of fashion? I wonder when was the last time I heard it. I think you do hear it more down in the South than up in Liberal cities, where no one has any patience with politeness.
I think some people are leery of saying "Excuse me" because it opens up the possibility of a rude response, such as "No, I don't excuse you," or "If only you COULD be excused" and things like that. There are more possibilities than with a simple "Please" or "Thank you."
_________________
My magical motto is Animus facit nobilem. I like to read fantasy and weird fiction. Just a few of my favorite online things: music, chess, and dungeon crawl stone soup.
I remember one of my primary school teachers detuning students from being overly polite, although I'm not sure why.
His response to "I beg your pardon" was "Dogs beg!"
"Excuse me" was a request for permission to leave the classroom, and "Pardon me" got the reply "You're not on death row"
I tend to only use "Huh?" as a shorthand for "That didn't make sense" and only use "What" if I'm angry.
I'll often use "Répétez, s'il vous plaît" if I misheard something, or if impatient "¿Que?"
Gentleman Argentum
Veteran
Joined: 24 Aug 2019
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,019
Location: State of Euphoria
His response to "I beg your pardon" was "Dogs beg!"
"Excuse me" was a request for permission to leave the classroom, and "Pardon me" got the reply "You're not on death row"
I tend to only use "Huh?" as a shorthand for "That didn't make sense" and only use "What" if I'm angry.
I'll often use "Répétez, s'il vous plaît" if I misheard something, or if impatient "¿Que?"
I am not sure about that teacher, that seems strange. Maybe it was a different era. These days, teachers I know would only be thrilled, if a student showed any courtesy. They would be over the moon.
*I bet that if compact-ample-unique-man clocked in at Home Depot one day and everyone was super-polite, saying, "Excuse me?" and "Thank you, Sir," he would be over the moon. Maybe. Or, maybe it would irritate him and he would think that they were mocking him in some fashion, or being supercilious, or weird. I have a feeling he wouldn't like it.
_________________
My magical motto is Animus facit nobilem. I like to read fantasy and weird fiction. Just a few of my favorite online things: music, chess, and dungeon crawl stone soup.
Where, when, and how did you ever get the idea that "huh" and "what" are rude responses if someone doesn't understand what you are saying?
I don't consider "huh" and "what" to be a rude response to me, if someone doesn't understand what I am saying. Neither does my partner, who has a speech impairment and therefore is often misunderstood.
Yes, "excuse me" is more polite, and so is "Could you please repeat that?" But I don't consider "what"/"huh" to be offensive.
A truly rude (and bigoted) response would be: "Speak English!" Even ruder (and more bigoted) would be: "Go back to whatever country you came from!" My partner has been told the latter a lot (even though he was born here in the U.S.A. and has at least one ancestor who arrived on the Mayflower over 400 years ago).
My partner has lived in many different places in the U.S.A. Our neighborhood, here in NYC, is one of the few places where he has NOT frequently been told things like, "Go back to whatever country you came from!"
_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.
CockneyRebel
Veteran
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Posts: 121,004
Location: In my own little country
it just seems like if annoying lil insects knew they had to say "excuse me" instead of just "huh" or "what", maybe they would listen more carefully. but that is just "my" (minority) opinion. it is not a fact, a law, a "proof", a social norm, or a PubMed article, or anything like that.
eight billion precious lil "people" in the galaxy. "logic could be used to justify anything". they have "freedom of speech", but "actions speak louder than words."
talking takes way too much energy for me. (vocal cord damage)
it just gets on my nerves. annoying having to repeat myself so much when some cockroaches have the nerve to grunt "huh" or "what" instead of "excuse me".
I strongly doubt this. And, given what you say below, it would appear that your actual main issue is something else entirely:
So you have an actual reason why it bothers you so much to be asked to repeat yourself -- whereas, for most people, being asked to repeat oneself is no big deal, or at most a minor annoyance.
Alas, I suspect that this very same vocal cord damage also makes your voice harder to understand, and that that is one of the main reasons why people need you to repeat yourself a lot, in the first place. In other words, your problem isn't just that the people you are talking to aren't listening carefully enough.
To whatever extent people are indeed not listening carefully enough, the important question is how you can get them to listen more carefully.
Are your co-workers aware that talking is difficult for you?
_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.
if they knew they had to say "excuse me" instead of "huh" or "what", maybe they would listen more carefully.
but only a couple people have been willing to do that:
high school classmate
former counselor jeanne
former aikido instructor
while plenty of centipedes had the nerve to refuse
old man and old woman
dena
anthony
but the vast majority of skunks, i don't even feel comfortable asking.
my old woman had the nerve to laugh @ me. i kept reminding her. but maybe i didn't explain clearly enough. she dropped dead 2015. it is now 2026. i still think about the "huh" and "what" refusal every day, even though (or maybe because) she is now dead.
so many spiders have the nerve to tell me they are my "friend", "care" about me, "help" me. whatever. but "actions speak louder than words". those insects are hypocrites. they speak vague and misleading statements. they have the nerve to put on "smoke and mirrors" but they are not even willing to do the slightest thing for me. they just want credit for doing nothing.
