Metal and bad vocalists

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28 Oct 2012, 12:52 pm

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What about metal and bad drummers? If you type Lars Ulrich into Google, you get the autocomplete 'Lars Ulrich bad drummer' :lol:

About metal vocals - I generally dislike the high-pitched type of metal/heavy rock vocals (which eliminates a lot of music for me). I like it when the lead singers sound like men.

Same; metal should have vocals in the baritone region generally with good decipherable singing/growling/screaming, with maybe some higher pitch singing.

As far as drummers go I often think drummers don't get enough credit in metal. Thrash metal and detah metal in particular has some crazy drumming. My favorite drummer is Henrik Andols of Chimaira or Tim Yueng of Divine Heresy.

Why should metal vocals be baritone? All the original metal vocalists were known for their tenors, or even high pitched singing. I've always preferred that to this growling stuff.

Peter Steele (RIP) had a baritone vocal effect, and look how well that worked with Type O Negative's style of music.

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28 Oct 2012, 1:05 pm

Metal vocals are not meant to be understood.

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28 Oct 2012, 2:52 pm

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Metal vocals are not meant to be understood.

Dumb perspective. If you're going to put so much work into writing awesome lyrics then they should be able to be understood without consulting a lyrics book. At best you are saying that using techniques that only damage someone's voice for an unpleasant sound is OK.

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29 Oct 2012, 2:53 am

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Metal vocals are not meant to be understood.

I'll be sending a memo to the metal musicians who use clear vocals.

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29 Oct 2012, 3:25 pm

Bun wrote:

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Metal vocals are not meant to be understood.

I'll be sending a memo to the metal musicians who use clear vocals.

I was referring to distorted vocals, not clean.

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29 Oct 2012, 3:26 pm

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Metal vocals are not meant to be understood.

The techniques are to eliminate damage, and whether it actually sounds good is an opinion.

There are some musicians who try to add a tone or sound to their voice for understandable lyrics, but I rarely see any who actually try to make themselves understandable.

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29 Oct 2012, 4:57 pm

Wolfmaster, Mikael Akerfeldt does a great job making his growls sound heavy as hell but still quite decipherable. I love metal vocals like that. Sadly, most just focus on the sound and not making themselves understandable.

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29 Oct 2012, 5:08 pm

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Akerfeldt is a damn fine vocalist, but i guess it's different strokes for different folks when it comes to vocals in metal. I myself love the high-pitched styles of Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford and King Diamond, along with the death growls and shrieks of various black/death and doom metal bands.

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29 Oct 2012, 8:27 pm

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Not really that sad to me. Nowdays, I don't really care to understand as long I like the music.

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29 Oct 2012, 8:28 pm

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KING DIAMOOOOOOOOONNNDDDD <3

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30 Oct 2012, 6:35 am

Wolfmaster wrote:

Bun wrote:

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Metal vocals are not meant to be understood.

I'll be sending a memo to the metal musicians who use clear vocals.

I was referring to distorted vocals, not clean.

But my point was some do use understandable vocals and have been successful with it, so I don't think using distorted vocals is on every metal musician's 'to-do' list.

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30 Oct 2012, 6:46 am

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KING DIAMOOOOOOOOONNNDDDD <3

I have over twenty-five King Diamond CDs including ones from his other band "Mercyful Fate". It's pretty much the only metal music I listen to although I usually only listen to music while driving. I've also been to a couple King Diamond concerts. Hopefully Mercyful Fate will have another new album at some point, and I can see them in concert too.

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30 Oct 2012, 2:36 pm

That seems a bit crazy Venger; I currently have 180-200 bands and I doubt more than a few (Metallica, Rush, etc.) have more than 25 CDs to even buy. I suppose some are more rabid collectors than others though, I download soundtracks songs and such.

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