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15 May 2013, 8:44 pm

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My 1st psych thought I had Aspergers but she wasn't qualified to make the diagnoses & she also diagnosed me with BPD along with other things. Every other psych I saw sense believed. I had Schizoid personality & PBD along with lots of other things instead of AS. I believe I do have Aspergers & the BPD symptoms I had were due to a sever psychotic depression that was brought on by issues related to my AS including the breakup with y 1st girlfriend who was the 1st person I felt a connection with. I had a mental breakdown & my personality became EMO. When my depression got better & I learned more about myself an Aspergers my BPD stuff got a lot better & I don't think I could get a BPD diagnoses now but I do still have some things; like being more sensitive, being very dependent on my partner, putting her 1st sometimes when it's bad for me. I really like discussing feelings with her & feel bad when she does.


That actually sounds more like codependency than BPD. I can't discuss feelings or express them, most of the time, except for anger. And I definitely avoid dependency/commitment like the plague.

But maybe there are just different types of BPD. I have strong dismissive-avoidant traits.



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16 May 2013, 12:59 am

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nick007 wrote:
My 1st psych thought I had Aspergers but she wasn't qualified to make the diagnoses & she also diagnosed me with BPD along with other things. Every other psych I saw sense believed. I had Schizoid personality & PBD along with lots of other things instead of AS. I believe I do have Aspergers & the BPD symptoms I had were due to a sever psychotic depression that was brought on by issues related to my AS including the breakup with y 1st girlfriend who was the 1st person I felt a connection with. I had a mental breakdown & my personality became EMO. When my depression got better & I learned more about myself an Aspergers my BPD stuff got a lot better & I don't think I could get a BPD diagnoses now but I do still have some things; like being more sensitive, being very dependent on my partner, putting her 1st sometimes when it's bad for me. I really like discussing feelings with her & feel bad when she does.


That actually sounds more like codependency than BPD. I can't discuss feelings or express them, most of the time, except for anger. And I definitely avoid dependency/commitment like the plague.

But maybe there are just different types of BPD. I have strong dismissive-avoidant traits.

I think there could be variations of BPD & some of the symptoms do overlap with codependency. I do have some codependency tenancies but they were aLOT worse in my 1st relationship. I don't have the sever problems with it that cause problems for my partner; it's more interdependence now. I think my sense of self fluctuates & is environment dependent. With my parents I'm very demanding, sometimes pick arguments or verbal fights, verbally lash out & can be really mean & hateful but I'm not really like that with others. I sometimes feel really angry about things with my parents & my childhood; I feel victimized by my family & society in general sometimes. But other times I look back on things & feel sympathetic to the problems my parents had because of my issues & I feel really guilty about things unrelated to my family I know have nothing to do with me.


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21 May 2013, 11:28 am

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Do you ever get told by professionals and friends: "Your social skills seem fine" but then you don't have any real friends?

I'm not sure really but I do get something similar. I practically don't have friends (at least it doesn't feel like it) or I have only very few friends which amounts to me like feeling that I don't have any. Anyways, BPD does lead to bad social skills, too. As someone else said, it's because they interpret facial expressions negatively and because they are engulfed and overwhelmed by their own emotions which leads to not being able to empathize very well with others. Hence a certain lack of social skills.
I still have to get diagnosed properly but I suspected I might have AS, after I went to some therapy sessions it was suggested to me that I may have, at least attachment issues if not BPD. So BPD actually fits me in a lot of ways and would explain things that wouldn't have been explained through AS. BUT I have abyssmal social skills and am unable to either make or keep friendships in any shape or form.

Some people may tell me that I'm friendly, kind or even think that I do stuff on weekends with other people, a normal life,...but that's not the case, So it may seem as if I'm ok in one way or another but I'm actually not. Not in the social realm of things. So, I don't know, maybe I have both AS and BPD or maybe not, and just BPD and something else that leads to a stark deficit in social skills. I guess, if I get diagnosed there'll be different diagnosis.
Read this: Social Skills and BPD


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21 May 2013, 1:54 pm

Mayel wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
Do you ever get told by professionals and friends: "Your social skills seem fine" but then you don't have any real friends?

I'm not sure really but I do get something similar. I practically don't have friends (at least it doesn't feel like it) or I have only very few friends which amounts to me like feeling that I don't have any. Anyways, BPD does lead to bad social skills, too. As someone else said, it's because they interpret facial expressions negatively and because they are engulfed and overwhelmed by their own emotions which leads to not being able to empathize very well with others. Hence a certain lack of social skills.
I still have to get diagnosed properly but I suspected I might have AS, after I went to some therapy sessions it was suggested to me that I may have, at least attachment issues if not BPD. So BPD actually fits me in a lot of ways and would explain things that wouldn't have been explained through AS. BUT I have abyssmal social skills and am unable to either make or keep friendships in any shape or form.

Some people may tell me that I'm friendly, kind or even think that I do stuff on weekends with other people, a normal life,...but that's not the case, So it may seem as if I'm ok in one way or another but I'm actually not. Not in the social realm of things. So, I don't know, maybe I have both AS and BPD or maybe not, and just BPD and something else that leads to a stark deficit in social skills. I guess, if I get diagnosed there'll be different diagnosis.
Read this: Social Skills and BPD


Yes, all this is me exactly. It amounts to good surface social skills, lots of hate & fear, and horrible results. I do feel normal when I move every few months. That's about it.



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22 May 2013, 1:42 pm

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Yep. I don't move a lot but I often feel like I should move and start over or drop out or quit from whatever I'm doing (which I sometimes do but for other reasons). Just to meet new people, a new environment and having that feeling that people won't judge you. At least for a certain amount of time, until they've got to know you or figured you out again.


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12 Jun 2013, 4:09 pm

I believe i have both. Maybe bpd requires an understanding of theory of mind buti doubt anyone goes through life with absolutely 0% understanding of theory of mind. Theory if mind where it doesn't come natural can be learned throughout life.

ptsd + aspergers = bpd? That's what research suggests, but i still think the person woulld have to have a genetic predisposition to bpd. According to what i read, there is a part of the brain that becomes smaller in ppl with bpd and ppl with ptsd, the physiological difference is the ppl with bpd also have a smaller than normal amadyglada... so do ppl with AS. So if bpd requi es those parts of the brain to be smaller and ptsd causes one to become smaller and those with AS are born with the othrr part smaller than i would even concure that ppl with AS should be more likely to develope bpd. Also, the most recent conclusion that science has come to is that there are 26 different genes that contribute to AS and that they affect the same area of the dna that is also where dramatic-type personality disorders are found.
I think i have both.. i don't think I'm alone. lol


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