Entry-Level Jobs that require bachelor's degrees

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04 Apr 2025, 7:50 pm

agreed ^^^



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19 Dec 2025, 5:49 am

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I dont have any experience at a job. Also I feel like I am the one who needs a job coach. I dont see how I can teach people how to work when I have never held a job for any amount of time. I have only worked at a job for 1 month but thats not enough to count.


Believe it or not. a lot of job coaches and life coaches have not held a 9-5 job prior to entering their profession. Back to job coaches, all you would be doing is showing people how to apply for jobs. Snagging the job is up them (not you). Your experience in applying for a wide range of jobs is what is useful. Not holding a job. I regularly was turned down for work and always insisted on getting full feedback from the interview panels which was useful in terms of either where I stood against other applicants or what I needed to do to improve my prospects. that sort of data is what a job coach needs to be of value to a client (not how to make hamburgers or take apart a computer).


My parents wont let me be a life coach.



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19 Dec 2025, 11:49 am

This is an inevitable consequence of there being too many job seekers and not enough jobs!

It could be remedied by cutting hours to @ 20/25per week, or else pay everyone a dole, leaving the available jobs to those who want to work, but this doesn’t fit in with establishment requirements; they believe that non. establishment types deserve to be stuck in a miserable dead end job for life.


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19 Dec 2025, 6:53 pm

In our state of Victoria we have colleges and universities that offer nursing. A total of 600 nursing students graduate each year. But in Victorian hospitals there are only enough supervised positions for 80 nursing internships that lead to registration. that leaves 520 graduates who have to seek alternative employment. Ironically there is a nursing shortage and hospitals have to hire overseas registered nurses from Asia to cover the shortage.

I can give you numerous examples of other trained college graduates like Infotech and graphic design where graduates are competing for a shrinking jobs pool against outsourced labour or AI.

Having a 4-yr level bachelors degree can be advantageous but you need to a) be flexible and know how to apply what you learned in undergrad and b) be prepared to sell your skills in new job types. this is a skill that unfortunately universities don't teach students.

Ultimately highschool graduates (and their parents) need to do research using cost/benefit analysis whether going to uni is a good investment in time and money. If they are incapable of doing that research then perhaps its not worth the risk. Or (dare I say it) they arnt cut out for uni.



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20 Dec 2025, 6:12 am

When I was in college, the best known “3 year holiday” was Fine Arts. Did that qualify anyone for anything?

Given universal Computer Aided Design (which guarantees lovely drawings, but not good designs, but the average manager can’t tell the difference) which lets everything be done by lower paid Draughtspersons, even an engineering qualification is no longer a guarantee of employment, but at least I got a damned good education!


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20 Dec 2025, 6:43 am

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When I was in college, the best known “3 year holiday” was Fine Arts. Did that qualify anyone for anything?

Given universal Computer Aided Design (which guarantees lovely drawings, but not good designs, but the average manager can’t tell the difference) which lets everything be done by lower paid Draughtspersons, even an engineering qualification is no longer a guarantee of employment, but at least I got a damned good education!
I have thought about becoming a CAD monkey. Been hemming and hawing if I should take a 1 year class for a certification. I just fear I won't find a low entry position right away even if I had proof for skills. I don't think there are many drafting jobs in my area either. I might have better luck in the Seattle area despite the cost of living being higher than Snoop Dogg.



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20 Dec 2025, 7:09 am

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I have thought about becoming a CAD monkey. Been hemming and hawing if I should take a 1 year class for a certification. I just fear I won't find a low entry position right away even if I had proof for skills. I don't think there are many drafting jobs in my area either. I might have better luck in the Seattle area despite the cost of living being higher than Snoop Dogg.


Does it really take a year for certification? The first CAD program I really liked, SolidWorks, I mastered in three weeks (I wasn’t so keen on Mechanical Desktop or Catia).

It’s only got easier since, as the different makes converge to the same methodology. It’s like having learned to drive a car; it takes only a few minutes to familiarise yourself with another model.

This won’t stop managers/recruiters imagining that one needs two years experience with whichever they have in house, so don’t be afraid to lie; if it’s a mainstream program then you’ll be productive in no time (look for tutorials on line if need be).

You shouldn’t have any trouble finding work as there’s no substitute for a human interface in this process, as yet. It has many good points as a career, being clean, creative and ever changing, so you should never get bored with it.


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20 Dec 2025, 6:04 pm

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This won’t stop managers/recruiters imagining that one needs two years experience with whichever they have in house, so don’t be afraid to lie; if it’s a mainstream program then you’ll be productive in no time (look for tutorials on line if need be).


Lying on your resume might land you an interview, but recruiters are much smarter than you think.



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20 Dec 2025, 6:10 pm

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I have thought about becoming a CAD monkey. Been hemming and hawing if I should take a 1 year class for a certification. I just fear I won't find a low entry position right away even if I had proof for skills. I don't think there are many drafting jobs in my area either. I might have better luck in the Seattle area despite the cost of living being higher than Snoop Dogg.


Oh yeah, if you are not hemmed in by a relationship then be prepared to relocate. Again it sounds like you need to do a cost-benefit analysis. I would sign up with an Infotech or design/drafting recruiter, for a cut of your income they can advise you on certification and location of jobs because its literally their business to know how you can land a job.



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27 Dec 2025, 12:30 am

cyberdora wrote:
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I have thought about becoming a CAD monkey. Been hemming and hawing if I should take a 1 year class for a certification. I just fear I won't find a low entry position right away even if I had proof for skills. I don't think there are many drafting jobs in my area either. I might have better luck in the Seattle area despite the cost of living being higher than Snoop Dogg.


Oh yeah, if you are not hemmed in by a relationship then be prepared to relocate. Again it sounds like you need to do a cost-benefit analysis. I would sign up with an Infotech or design/drafting recruiter, for a cut of your income they can advise you on certification and location of jobs because its literally their business to know how you can land a job.
That is the sad reality in my situation. Thankfully, I am single and only living with family (which I am estranged from) so I can move out whenever I want to. Just now I see a hybrid remote drafting job in my city.



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27 Dec 2025, 12:34 am

gwynfryn wrote:
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I have thought about becoming a CAD monkey. Been hemming and hawing if I should take a 1 year class for a certification. I just fear I won't find a low entry position right away even if I had proof for skills. I don't think there are many drafting jobs in my area either. I might have better luck in the Seattle area despite the cost of living being higher than Snoop Dogg.


Does it really take a year for certification? The first CAD program I really liked, SolidWorks, I mastered in three weeks (I wasn’t so keen on Mechanical Desktop or Catia).

It’s only got easier since, as the different makes converge to the same methodology. It’s like having learned to drive a car; it takes only a few minutes to familiarise yourself with another model.

This won’t stop managers/recruiters imagining that one needs two years experience with whichever they have in house, so don’t be afraid to lie; if it’s a mainstream program then you’ll be productive in no time (look for tutorials on line if need be).

You shouldn’t have any trouble finding work as there’s no substitute for a human interface in this process, as yet. It has many good points as a career, being clean, creative and ever changing, so you should never get bored with it.
At my community college the course is like a year. There might be shorter courses in other areas or states. Since you are experienced, I am curious has your company ever hired entry level people before without degrees/experience? I see comments on Reddit suggesting companies prefer to hire those with 2-4 year engineering degrees but isn't that a bit overkill for a drafting job? As far as I am aware both drafters and engineers are two different roles despite using similar tools.



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23 Jan 2026, 5:40 pm

gwynfryn wrote:
When I was in college, the best known “3 year holiday” was Fine Arts. Did that qualify anyone for anything?

Given universal Computer Aided Design (which guarantees lovely drawings, but not good designs, but the average manager can’t tell the difference) which lets everything be done by lower paid Draughtspersons, even an engineering qualification is no longer a guarantee of employment, but at least I got a damned good education!

what is a 3 year holiday?



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23 Jan 2026, 7:57 pm

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That is the sad reality in my situation. Thankfully, I am single and only living with family (which I am estranged from) so I can move out whenever I want to. Just now I see a hybrid remote drafting job in my city.


Best of luck :)