What Conservatives Want (In Their Own Words)

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23 Feb 2026, 3:47 pm



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23 Feb 2026, 4:40 pm

Shocking to say the very least :x ... what is sick more about this video, is, I think those people really believe what they are saying and have no idea they are part of this cult. I wonder if there is any coming back from this now; part of me is worried, but, also, part of me needs to protect myself from this stress and impending doom.


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23 Feb 2026, 5:44 pm

One important question is: What portion of self-identified conservatives actually agree with these sentiments?

kokopelli would likely say that these people are not true conservatives, but radical reactionaries. And, in the most literal sense of the word "conservative," he would be correct.

Unfortunately, the radical reactionaries are in power right now. It remains to be seen what all they will do to hold on to power, and whether they will succeed.


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23 Feb 2026, 5:49 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
...It remains to be seen what all they will do to hold on to power, and whether they will succeed...
...Its this that worries me the most I think.


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23 Feb 2026, 6:04 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
One important question is: What portion of self-identified conservatives actually agree with these sentiments?

kokopelli would likely say that these people are not true conservatives, but radical reactionaries. And, in the most literal sense of the word "conservative," he would be correct.

Unfortunately, the radical reactionaries are in power right now. It remains to be seen what all they will do to hold on to power, and whether they will succeed.


Part of the problem is these people control the tent the entire right is camping out under. As long as radical reactionaries/fascists are less offensive to the people under that tent than 'the libs' are, those people will continue to enable the radical reactionaries/fascists.

To quote A.R. Moxon:

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Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.

They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?


Likewise, it doesn't matter which knot has bound other self-identified conservatives to the MAGA movement, so long as they continue to support it they're part of the problem. Someday they might attempt to distance themselves from the movement out of guilt and shame but right now they're active contributors to the movement, which makes them part of the problem.


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23 Feb 2026, 6:20 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Likewise, it doesn't matter which knot has bound other self-identified conservatives to the MAGA movement, so long as they continue to support it they're part of the problem. Someday they might attempt to distance themselves from the movement out of guilt and shame but right now they're active contributors to the movement, which makes them part of the problem.

Some are already distancing themselves. The important question is how many more will distance themselves before it is too late.


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23 Feb 2026, 6:29 pm

In a population of 350 million, there are bound to be a few thousand rabid ones.



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23 Feb 2026, 6:30 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Likewise, it doesn't matter which knot has bound other self-identified conservatives to the MAGA movement, so long as they continue to support it they're part of the problem. Someday they might attempt to distance themselves from the movement out of guilt and shame but right now they're active contributors to the movement, which makes them part of the problem.

Some are already distancing themselves. The important question is how many more will distance themselves before it is too late.


Some yes, but not enough.

What if it's already too late and some of the damage is already irreversible? America's former allies are already planning around the US, the damage to America's relationships is already inflicted.

It's going to take awhile to understand the complete damage MAGA has inflicted (both internally and externally), and to be blunt, you can't unf**k a toddler. Nothing the US does as a response in order to mitigate the damage will actually reverse the damage to it's alliances and it's own political norms.


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23 Feb 2026, 6:30 pm

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In a population of 350 million, there are bound to be a few thousand rabid ones.


This isn't a few thousand, this is more like a few dozen million.


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23 Feb 2026, 6:54 pm

Even with the whole Epstein thing, Trump has convinced people that only Latin American immigrants and LGBTQ+ people are sexual threats, and the MAGAs eat it up.


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23 Feb 2026, 7:09 pm

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Even with the whole Epstein thing, Trump has convinced people that only Latin American immigrants and LGBTQ+ people are sexual threats, and the MAGAs eat it up.
I cant figure out why Trump has this hold over people and they fall for everything and anything he tells them to do ... and you're right ... us LGBTQ+ are on their list.


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23 Feb 2026, 11:06 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
Some are already distancing themselves. The important question is how many more will distance themselves before it is too late.


Some yes, but not enough.

What if it's already too late and some of the damage is already irreversible? America's former allies are already planning around the US, the damage to America's relationships is already inflicted.

It's going to take awhile to understand the complete damage MAGA has inflicted (both internally and externally), and to be blunt, you can't unf**k a toddler. Nothing the US does as a response in order to mitigate the damage will actually reverse the damage to it's alliances and it's own political norms.

Some of the damage, especially to the U.S.A.'s international standing, is probably irreversible.

But I hope there will be enough people willing to join together to restore and strengthen the U.S.A.'s political norms.


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24 Feb 2026, 1:52 am

I'm afraid we're past the point of just laughing it off as a few loons. Especially as the message from MAGA now is that violence is mostly coming from the left, while those violent on the right are justified by having been pushed into it.


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25 Feb 2026, 5:57 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Carbonhalo wrote:
In a population of 350 million, there are bound to be a few thousand rabid ones.


This isn't a few thousand, this is more like a few dozen million.

77.1 million to be more exact.



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25 Feb 2026, 6:14 pm

auntblabby wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Carbonhalo wrote:
In a population of 350 million, there are bound to be a few thousand rabid ones.


This isn't a few thousand, this is more like a few dozen million.

77.1 million to be more exact.


It's probably not all 77 million but if it's even half of them, that's too many.

Also, there's the problem of people who will cosign what those ghouls support while claiming they don't really support it. Not every German during WWII was a rabid Nazi supporter, but the ones who just went along with it were also accomplices in the regime's crimes.

This is one of the copes you'll often see modern American conservatives trot out, well, I don't really like Trump but I'll vote for him because I'm a Republican. If that's what you'll vote for and cosign, you're part of the problem even if you insist you don't really support it.


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