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29 Dec 2020, 11:30 am

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Why would people with mental illnesses support a party that works against them?
Lots of people where I'm from strongly support the party that works against em the most, & they believe everyone else is stupid :wall:


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29 Dec 2020, 11:37 am

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Why would people with mental illnesses support a party that works against them?
Lots of people where I'm from strongly support the party that works against em the mos, & they believe everyone else is stupid :wall:



There is such thing as stupidity and lot of people are stupid.

Take for example, I watched a video on poverty and these people living in New York state and are given free housing and have food stamps but yet they still supported Trump despite that fact he had said he wanted to make cuts to food stamps. The stupidity is real.


But an online friend offered a logical explanation. Trump wants to create more jobs so in their mind, Trump can magically make them not poor so who cares of he cuts food stamps, they won't need them anymore. Okay, can he give everyone $45 an hour jobs and make all unskilled jobs high pay? But he cannot magically make you not poor for God's sake.


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18 Jan 2021, 3:46 am

League_Girl wrote:
But an online friend offered a logical explanation. Trump wants to create more jobs so in their mind, Trump can magically make them not poor so who cares of he cuts food stamps, they won't need them anymore. Okay, can he give everyone $45 an hour jobs and make all unskilled jobs high pay? But he cannot magically make you not poor for God's sake.


Remember he was going to bring back jobs from China. Last time I checked competing with China for wages would mean the US companies who (hypothetically) got the contracts would re-hire Mexicans to do the job cheaper :roll:



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03 Mar 2021, 5:35 am

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According to a recent study, published in ScienceDirect, psychopathic propensities contribute to social dominance orientation and right-wing authoritarianism in predicting prejudicial attitudes in a large European sample.

The study focused on the Self-Report Psychopathy Scale-Short Form (SRP-SF) which broke psychopathy into four distinct categories:

• a manipulative and deceptive interpersonal style
• antisocial tendencies
• callousness and lack of empathy
• impulsivity
As an aspie, I'm most certainly NOT psychopathic. In fact, when I was little, I sincerely believed that I was the kindest child in human history, presumably, due to the strong empathy I felt for other mistreated kids, animals (especially cats and dogs), and my toys. But not so much empathy for adults, who have limitless power and access to misery-reducing substances like alcohol. So logically, I was supposed to grow up into a bleeding-heart leftist. And yet, I'm a fervent supporter of Trump and the GOP (US Republican party).

"What happened?" That newfangled cold virus! The Democrats are very ruthless and psychopathic about incarcerating innocent people into their homes and taking the joy out of everyone's lives. All while packing nursing homes with high-risk Covid-positive elderly persons, resulting in skyrocketing death rates. All while the GOP protected individual rights and the businesses people spend decades building.



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03 Mar 2021, 6:10 am

I might have turned out to be a reichwinger had I of not been on the receiving end of abuse by folks like that. I'm a redneck-y, white(-looking) guy who likes weapons and militaria, fixates on vengeance, loved Germanic pagan culture, who certainly was exposed to plenty of toxic masculinity in my developmental years, always looked fondly on the British Empire growing up (Hail Britannia and all that s**t) etc.

There's a word that starts with an s those types tend to throw around. I can't bring myself to associate with people who use that word, it literally hurts to hear.



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04 Mar 2021, 11:12 pm

I mean...I like you OP but tbh I don’t think you can say any one group is all one way or another.

There are psychopaths who adore social assistance and s**t like that so they can live their parasitic lifestyle. My upstairs neighbor is that type (most likely).

Personally I think that one does have to also help themselves to archive things. Some social assistance is ok, but it can’t be limitless. And everyone should have access to healthcare.

Also, the concept of psychopathy is...not well researched in the non-forensic population.

We all have a level of psychopathy in us. Very few people are 100% totally empathetic all the time (and the people who ID as “empaths” are insane to me and I often choose to not deal with them).

Also, I have said this before I think, but anyone can be manipulative.


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04 Mar 2021, 11:16 pm

I call it junk science and a way to further marginalize conservatives.


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04 Mar 2021, 11:19 pm

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I call it junk science and a way to further marginalize conservatives.


I am in the middle politically (voted Biden).

Actual research would be more needed into this.

Psychopaths probably have all kinds of views. Like anyone.


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05 Mar 2021, 3:43 am

League_Girl wrote:
Trump wants to create more jobs so in their mind, Trump can magically make them not poor so who cares of he cuts food stamps, they won't need them anymore. Okay, can he give everyone $45 an hour jobs and make all unskilled jobs high pay? But he cannot magically make you not poor for God's sake.


Trump boldly claimed he would brings jobs back from China in 2016. People were unable to understand that its impossible to compete with a country that has virtual slave labor work conditions producing almost half our manufactured goods for 10c per hour wages. Ain't gonna happen.

Yet this is the type of arguments MAGAs in poverty use to explain why they voted for him.



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05 Mar 2021, 3:52 am

cyberdad wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Trump wants to create more jobs so in their mind, Trump can magically make them not poor so who cares of he cuts food stamps, they won't need them anymore. Okay, can he give everyone $45 an hour jobs and make all unskilled jobs high pay? But he cannot magically make you not poor for God's sake.


Trump boldly claimed he would brings jobs back from China in 2016. People were unable to understand that its impossible to compete with a country that has virtual slave labor work conditions producing almost half our manufactured goods for 10c per hour wages. Ain't gonna happen.

Yet this is the type of arguments MAGAs in poverty use to explain why they voted for him.


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Australian investment in US is a 'good expression the relationship isn't one way'
23/04/2020|13min

Visy Industries Chairman Anthony Pratt pledged $2 billion and built a paper mill to bring thousands of manufacturing jobs to the US, which Prime Minister Scott Morrison says was a "good expression that this relationship financially isn't one way".


https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6151545114001



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07 Mar 2021, 12:57 am

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Is anyone surprised by all this?
I'm NOT surprised.
Now I'm suddently wondering if there has been studies about left-wing politics & mental illness :?: It would not surprise me if people who are left-wing are more likely to have things like anxiety, OCD, depression, & dependent personality disorder.



I think they do, same as for being poor, coming from a poor family, being born without skills (like me for example), or other disabilities just like me.
That's why I'm usually a lefty nowadays. I was a hard-core righty for a while in my early 20s thou. I was born with a lot of my disabilities & issues but lots of things were not correctly diagnosed. I NEVER had any gov benefits or services or programs growing up since my disabilities were not diagnosed & both my parents worked. My dad worked in construction doing carpentry(just retired but will work occasionally still) & my mom was a pre-K teacher at a public school in a very poor community(she's been retired about 10 years now). My parents were poor when they got married but gradually worked their way up to lower middle-class. Some of the parents of my mom's students were on various benefits & were kinda abusing the system. I struggled MAJORLY to find work as an adult. I would put in apps for most anything I thought I might could do & place I might could get to & was extremely lucky to get an interview. I'm from the deep south & I kept hearing rightwing propaganda about illegal immigrants stealing jobs & how corporations were afraid to hire disableds due to the Disabilities Act. I was hearing how businesses were afraid that if somebody was disabled & could not do the job cuz of their disability or if the disabled simply did not want to do any real work, the business would risk getting sued by firing them. I was working with voc-rehab to help find employment but they were useless & seemed like they were a waste of taxpayer money. I had a mental breakdown at 20 over my 1st relationship falling apart. She had problems with drugs & alcohol & I misdirected my anger & frustration at drugs & alcohol. I was straight-edge for a while & the people of that culture group tended to be politically right instead of left. I got on SSI shortly after I had the mental breakdown & I also qualified for Louisiana Medicaid. However NO docs or psychs in my area would accept Medicaid cuz it would not pay them enough. That meant I also had to have private health insurance which I had to pay for out of my SSI & the private insurance had copays, deductibles, & would NOT cover mental. However my private health insurance & Medicaid covered my prescriptions. Over half my SSI money was being spent on my insurance & medical bills. After I started working & was at my 2nd job a year, I was able to have my health insurance through them which was cheaper so I switched. However I was forced out of that job a year later & I could NOT qualify for private insurance due to the pre-exisiting conditions clause. I was able to continue the work insurance through COBRA but the insurance alone cost over half my SSI. The COBRA policy stopped after 18 months & I also lost my Medicaid rite after. My SSI switched to Social Security Disability then & I had been enrolled in Medicaid cuz of being on the SSI which had ended since it switched. I also could NOT qualify for Medicare cuz if you get Medicare from Social Security Disability instead of Social Security Retirement, you have to be on the Disability a year before you are eligible for Medicare or at least you did then :wall: I had to quit seeing docs, quit seeing my psych, & quit taking meds cuz my Disability was only slightly more than my SSI was & I could not afford to pay all those costs. It should come at no surprise to you guys now that a big reason I jumped ship politically is cuz of the health insurance issue. Obamacare prevented private insurances from having the pre-exisiting conditions clause, allows kids to stay under their parents policies till they turn 25(my mom's insurance kicked me off 1ce I turned 21 cuz I was not in school & my parents did not have guardianship of me), required private insurances to cover mental or have policies that do, & expanded Medicaid access. Those are all things that could of helped me if they had been in place when I was in my early 20s. Nowadays I live in Vermont, I'm on Medicare, have the Medicaid Extra Help program that covers the Medicare costs I would have, & the docs & psychs at the health center actually accept Medicare & Medicaid so I'm a hell of a lot better off when it comes to my health care costs.


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07 Mar 2021, 2:09 am

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Not Sky again! c'mon buddy



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07 Mar 2021, 2:47 am

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Not Sky again! c'mon buddy


There is nothing in the rulz, to my knowledge, for me not to use a reliable source. 8)



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07 Mar 2021, 3:32 am

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Not Sky again! c'mon buddy


There is nothing in the rulz, to my knowledge, for me not to use a reliable source. 8)


Ok...Sky news is like kryptonite for my head :wall:



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07 Mar 2021, 4:32 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Not Sky again! c'mon buddy


There is nothing in the rulz, to my knowledge, for me not to use a reliable source. 8)


Ok...Sky news is like kryptonite for my head :wall:


Joke allowed, if there is a super-something in this thread, it is me, not you. 8)

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07 Mar 2021, 4:05 pm

I would be interested in what OP thinks psychopathy is exactly?


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