I told my parents I never want to see them again

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26 Jul 2024, 4:58 pm

If the mask slips, I’ll claim i’m sick or tired.
I won’t ever stop trying to gain status.



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26 Jul 2024, 5:00 pm

Life isn’t worth living if you can’t pass as NT. I’ve spent so much time trying to appear normal and now it’s finally starting to work. I don’t want to fail now.

If I save enough money, I can quit my job and be as autistic as I want. I’ll have so much money that I can do whatever I want. Fitting in won’t matter because the money will provide for me.

Being rich is my only life goal. I can’t unmask until I get there.



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26 Jul 2024, 5:12 pm

There's nothing wrong with wanting to do well in life, but you seem to be under the impression that being terrible will actively contribute to that goal when that's usually not how things work in the real world.

Most terrible people don't succeed and when they do it's rarely because of the traits that make them terrible, it's almost always in spite of those traits. Some of those traits might contribute to why they feel entitled to succeed, but again, it's other traits that actively contribute to their successes.

Antisocial traits rarely breed loyalty from the people one is close to, which additionally contributes to social struggles because the people who become close to you are usually driven by little more than how they can benefit from you. You're just as disposable to them as they are to you.

It's a very high risk strategy that's more likely to result in failure than success. The problem is, the antisocial people who are failing at life rarely get attention unless it's due to criminal proceedings so you don't get to hear about how and why they failed, instead you hear mostly about the rare success cases.


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26 Jul 2024, 5:18 pm

I would love to see my parent’s house burn down and have them end up homeless. They don’t realize how much giving me a diagnosis hurt my self-esteem. Maybe they deserve bad things to happen to them.

I already told my parents I will not pay for nursing home or funeral expenses. My successful well-off NT relatives can do it.

There’s nothing good about autism. It’s a disease for a reason.



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26 Jul 2024, 5:21 pm

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I would love to see my parent’s house burn down and have them end up homeless. They don’t realize how much giving me a diagnosis hurt my self-esteem. Maybe they deserve bad things to happen to them.

There’s nothing good about autism. It’s a disease for a reason.


All the same struggles without an identifiable cause hurts one's self-esteem as well, I know this from experience.

Your folks suffering won't make your life any better.

Developing healthier coping mechanisms would improve your quality of life much more than gleefully celebrating other people's suffering will, especially in the long term.


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26 Jul 2024, 5:23 pm

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I would love to see my parent’s house burn down and have them end up homeless. They don’t realize how much giving me a diagnosis hurt my self-esteem. Maybe they deserve bad things to happen to them.

There’s nothing good about autism. It’s a disease for a reason.


All the same struggles without an identifiable cause hurts one's self-esteem as well, I know this from experience.

Your folks suffering won't make your life any better.

Developing healthier coping mechanisms would improve your quality of life much more than gleefully celebrating other people's suffering will, especially in the long term.

I don’t think you get it. I don’t accept my autism. You do. I don’t want to get over it. The only thing that keeps me going is knowing that I might be able to fake a whole persona in order to succesfully get the things NTs get for granted.

I just want to be able to say “f**k you i’ve got mine”



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26 Jul 2024, 5:36 pm

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I would love to see my parent’s house burn down and have them end up homeless. They don’t realize how much giving me a diagnosis hurt my self-esteem. Maybe they deserve bad things to happen to them.

There’s nothing good about autism. It’s a disease for a reason.


All the same struggles without an identifiable cause hurts one's self-esteem as well, I know this from experience.

Your folks suffering won't make your life any better.

Developing healthier coping mechanisms would improve your quality of life much more than gleefully celebrating other people's suffering will, especially in the long term.

I don’t think you get it. I don’t accept my autism. You do. I don’t want to get over it. The only thing that keeps me going is knowing that I might be able to fake a whole persona in order to succesfully get the things NTs get for granted.


I get that you're still punching yourself in the face and wondering when it's going to lead to something positive.

It's never going to lead to something positive and you'd be wise to change strategies, even if that means making peace with something you don't want to make peace with. You don't really have a choice though. You're always going to be autistic and no amount of LARPing as an NT will make you an NT.

Since you can't alter that reality you're going to have to accept it at some point. Every strategy you propose that isn't making peace with being autistic just wastes your time and energy while positively contributing nothing.

You don't have to get over it; you can continue to struggle more than you need to, fail more than you need to, suffer more than you need to and continue the strategy of refusing to accept reality.

Most likely that strategy will just lead to constantly being burnt-out, miserable and still not succeeding in the ways you'd like to succeed, while also ensuring you're emotionally wounded much more frequently.

No one can force you to live life differently from how you want to, but it's not wrong to point out why your preferred path is all cost, no benefit.


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26 Jul 2024, 6:02 pm

No issue there.
Be open, don't be open. Rant, don't rant.

Just wise up.

And whatever schemes you're going to do, just remain within ethical boundaries.



Antisocial traits are hyped as some sort of rule breaker that one gets what one wants, including hurting others, with less consequences and induces fear, guilt, shame onto others -- it requires counterbalance of executive function or degree of social planning above else to maintain the illusion of control over others.

If this is what you want to develop, all I advise to you is be ethical about it.
One doesn't need morals or even empathy to 'do good' or 'be good', but ethics will do.


But if something goes wrong (actually burning out, getting found out), :lol: you had to understand why and what actually leads to such consequences.
Even better; predicting such possibility way ahead of you and avoiding it.

This is what most of those with anti-social tendencies and personality disorders become repeated offenders and causes of their downfall.
Even many NDs including and especially autistics, get themselves set up over where they take the fall.

Else, you will never go far.
Worse, anything you built up will be undone.

And don't play with fire; literally and metaphorically.



:lol: Since it's clear you're not pursuing love (self or other), actually quelling loneliness (or any inner work for that matter) or even breaking generational cycles (as per topic of this thread and replies); but whatever idea you're convinced of like the status quo and outsiders' perception as a means to bring your peace of mind (your hate for a diagnostic label) and your own path.


Blame what you need to blame. :twisted: Take any opportunity, build an opportunistic mindset since you think it's a dog eat dog world.

Regardless of what you achieve, it's all on you. :P



I'm not going to convince you otherwise -- reconnecting, reconciling, etc; that will come to you or if you thought that will be a potential regret later on... :lol:
.. Not that one typically can emotionally predict that far away.

And I ain't saving your soul over it. Clearly, you're not interested in that.

But I support anyone's pursuit for independence and autonomy above else.


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26 Jul 2024, 6:52 pm

Only being rich will make me happy.



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26 Jul 2024, 7:05 pm

FrostBender wrote:
Only being rich will make me happy.

A lot of people think that if only they’re rich, have a partner, lose weight, or whatever they’ll be happy, but many find that once they get what they thought they needed for happiness they still aren’t happy because it’s typically more complex than that.



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26 Jul 2024, 7:10 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
FrostBender wrote:
Only being rich will make me happy.

A lot of people think that if only they’re rich, have a partner, lose weight, or whatever they’ll be happy, but many find that once they get what they thought they needed for happiness they still aren’t happy because it’s typically more complex than that.

Not me. I could live alone with a ton of money and never be sad.



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26 Jul 2024, 7:10 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
FrostBender wrote:
Only being rich will make me happy.

A lot of people think that if only they’re rich, have a partner, lose weight, or whatever they’ll be happy, but many find that once they get what they thought they needed for happiness they still aren’t happy because it’s typically more complex than that.

Plus you probably have a lot of money, so it’s easier to say that.



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26 Jul 2024, 7:11 pm

FrostBender wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
FrostBender wrote:
Only being rich will make me happy.

A lot of people think that if only they’re rich, have a partner, lose weight, or whatever they’ll be happy, but many find that once they get what they thought they needed for happiness they still aren’t happy because it’s typically more complex than that.

Plus you probably have a lot of money, so it’s easier to say that.

No, I’m well-below the poverty line.

Were you a member here before under a different username?



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26 Jul 2024, 7:17 pm

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Were you a member here before under a different username?

No.
There's a lot of people who use this site. It's possible my feelings about things are similar to someone elses?



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26 Jul 2024, 7:24 pm

Look, now that I've calmed down, I don't really want to have to lie and cheat my way through life. But I feel like I have no other option.

And I hate that my parents coddle me and don't think I can do anything on my own.



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26 Jul 2024, 7:55 pm

You're harming yourself by doing all this. Stop. Be a better person. Give up this hateful garbage.