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05 Sep 2025, 9:24 pm

The housing and rental crisis is bad in Australia, also. It is not surprising when you consider the number of legal immigrants into the country the Labor Party has introduced. We don't have a problem with illegal immigrants the way you people have in the UK, thankfully, but many game the system through student visas, etc. There was even a major protest a few days ago complaining about the rampant immigration caused by the Labor Party's policies.



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05 Sep 2025, 11:22 pm

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The housing and rental crisis is bad in Australia, also. It is not surprising when you consider the number of legal immigrants into the country the Labor Party has introduced. We don't have a problem with illegal immigrants the way you people have in the UK, thankfully, but many game the system through student visas, etc. There was even a major protest a few days ago complaining about the rampant immigration caused by the Labor Party's policies.


Yep, same thing here in Canada. The whole British Commonwealth is a mess.



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06 Sep 2025, 6:04 pm

Jakeb wrote:
The housing and rental crisis is bad in Australia, also. It is not surprising when you consider the number of legal immigrants into the country the Labor Party has introduced. We don't have a problem with illegal immigrants the way you people have in the UK, thankfully, but many game the system through student visas, etc. There was even a major protest a few days ago complaining about the rampant immigration caused by the Labor Party's policies.


It's not just illegals. Have a look who is attending house auctions. Specific groups are paying exorbitant prices at auctions making affordability impossible for young people. Combination of VISA scams and business migration schemes.

Same group/s has literally taken over small retail all over every capital city in Australia. even rural towns. If I drive from Melbourne I struggle to find a local Australian owned bakery or small goods store. And NZ is worse. Go to any rural Victorian town with a population of 200 and there will be a a local bar, Indian owned petrol station, Chinese $2 shop, Vietnamese bakery, Indian and Chinese take away food and a Chinese owned mobile phone shop. I am not blaming the business owners, they have every right to open businesses anywhere. But even Asian tourists (and we have plenty) travelling through regional Australia on holiday are disappointed when they want to experience local Australian regional culture. And even bars and restaurants in every local town who offer hot food appear to employ cooks in the back who are on VISA. My wife and I have been to two top restaurants recently, one Italian and one French in Melbourne and both had chefs who were either east or south Asian. Again no shade on these chefs but I ask myself "what is happening here"? "am I comfortable with this"?, If I am being honest with myself, the answer is no.

And now government initiatives to bring in affordable housing is to create monstrous public housing and low cost apartments in established areas. Problem is investors buy out most apartments bringing in renters who are competing for limited rental stock introducing elements who engage in crime on nearby houses (many of my neighbours have been robbed).

I am now a proponent of a small Australia, it's realistically not sustainable to maintain immigration at their current levels. 99% of new migrants live in capital cities and Melbourne and Sydney is bearing the biggest burden. It's overstretching all services everything from childcare, schools, hospitals and clinics all the way to housing, congested roads, overcrowded public transport and carparks. Back in the 1980s and even early 1990s a train to Melbourne during business hours you could always get a seat. Now it resembles Tokyo or Delhi, you are lucky if you can find a place to stand. Carparks near train stations have become a war zone early morning and fights break out over limited parking. It's all not sustainable.

It's also creating a burden on our natural forests and waterways. Unfettered population growth mean expanding urban corridors and knocking down forests impacting native animals and causing more problems with pollution. List goes on and on.



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07 Sep 2025, 7:43 pm

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Jakeb wrote:
The housing and rental crisis is bad in Australia, also. It is not surprising when you consider the number of legal immigrants into the country the Labor Party has introduced. We don't have a problem with illegal immigrants the way you people have in the UK, thankfully, but many game the system through student visas, etc. There was even a major protest a few days ago complaining about the rampant immigration caused by the Labor Party's policies.


Yep, same thing here in Canada. The whole British Commonwealth is a mess.


Unfortunately, I have to agree with your comment.



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09 Sep 2025, 7:59 pm

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The housing and rental crisis is bad in Australia, also. It is not surprising when you consider the number of legal immigrants into the country the Labor Party has introduced. We don't have a problem with illegal immigrants the way you people have in the UK, thankfully, but many game the system through student visas, etc. There was even a major protest a few days ago complaining about the rampant immigration caused by the Labor Party's policies.


It's not just illegals. Have a look who is attending house auctions. Specific groups are paying exorbitant prices at auctions making affordability impossible for young people. Combination of VISA scams and business migration schemes.


I was talking about legal immigrants, not illegal. There has been an explosion of legal immigrants into the country lately. Many believe the Labor Party had the intention of importing labor voters, Jacinta Price being one of them. Polls are suggesting that Indian immigrants overwhelmingly vote for the Labor Party initially. I have heard it said that the Biden administration did the same sort of thing. It is not a difficult strategy to understand. BTW, Morrison pissed off a lot of Australian Chinese with his attack on China over the COVID virus, the dummy. He lost the election partly because of this. It also damaged the Australian economy enormously when China retaliated a la Trump's Tariff policy that he is introducing now. Morrison was not "foreman material" and should never have been put in the position of being Prime Minister, IMO.



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10 Sep 2025, 2:33 am

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The housing and rental crisis is bad in Australia, also. It is not surprising when you consider the number of legal immigrants into the country the Labor Party has introduced. We don't have a problem with illegal immigrants the way you people have in the UK, thankfully, but many game the system through student visas, etc. There was even a major protest a few days ago complaining about the rampant immigration caused by the Labor Party's policies.


It's not just illegals. Have a look who is attending house auctions. Specific groups are paying exorbitant prices at auctions making affordability impossible for young people. Combination of VISA scams and business migration schemes.


I was talking about legal immigrants, not illegal.


whom do you think attends house auctions?



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10 Sep 2025, 2:35 am

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Many believe the Labor Party had the intention of importing labor voters, Jacinta Price being one of them. Polls are suggesting that Indian immigrants overwhelmingly vote for the Labor Party initially.


Jacinta Price is a grifter and made a fool of herself in front of her own conservative colleagues.



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10 Sep 2025, 2:40 am

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BTW, Morrison pissed off a lot of Australian Chinese with his attack on China over the COVID virus, the dummy. He lost the election partly because of this. It also damaged the Australian economy enormously when China retaliated a la Trump's Tariff policy that he is introducing now. Morrison was not "foreman material" and should never have been put in the position of being Prime Minister, IMO.


Did you watch the 4 corners doco on Morrison? he was taking advice from Christian fundamentalists and qanon conspiracy theorists
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/ ... /100125156



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10 Sep 2025, 9:46 am

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There's been a housing crisis in the US for some time now and it's been made worse in my local area due to gentrification.


Gentrification has been a big issue in the UK as well. My area keeps building luxury flats / apartments. Which is a little bizarre because the view isn't exactly a luxury. They claim it's to encourage young professionals and families to move to the area who will contribute to the local economy and encourage new growth. The population is predominately retired folk. Generally, people in their 20s and 30s tend to move out for job opportunities. It no longer feels like a place people actually live, at least not people my age, rather just a stop-over place for commuters who don't really spend their time here. They've spent all this money on luxury buildings but there's nothing to do. No community. I can't really fathom why you'd pay luxury prices for a small studio in a dying town where your view is a dodgy alleyway where people usually get mugged. Unless you work somewhere that's even more expensive and it seems cheap in comparison.

I know I've had interviewers look me up and down and mutter that I seem young and how can they know I'm not going to leave for a better paying job in the city. Ironically, it's that attitude that forces us to do so. I do have an interview coming up in the city and if I'm successful I plan to commute in the short-term and eventually move there.


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10 Sep 2025, 4:21 pm

I think demand for inner city real estate is what drives developers to seek investors to submit planning permits. Local councils welcome replacement of welfare recipients with rate paying "yuppies" and cashed up retirees who want to move from the suburbs and enjoy inner city lifestyles and culture.

Demand for restaurants, bars, cafes and clubs replacing 24hr convenience stores drives small business

Gentrification is classified as inner city "revival". But it makes living expensive for people already living there. Rents go up and cost of goods and services also go up.



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11 Sep 2025, 10:35 pm

cyberdora wrote:
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Many believe the Labor Party had the intention of importing labor voters, Jacinta Price being one of them. Polls are suggesting that Indian immigrants overwhelmingly vote for the Labor Party initially.


Jacinta Price is a grifter and made a fool of herself in front of her own conservative colleagues.


She is politically inexperienced. I will give you that.



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11 Sep 2025, 10:41 pm

cyberdora wrote:

whom do you think attends house auctions?



Many Australia investors have multiple houses. I had several, at one point.
Chalmers wants to stop this, but in doing so, rental housing availability will be devastated. Keating found this out to his chagrin, and had to reverse his interfering policy as a result of the consequences of his misjudgement. If you have evidence that immigrants prefer owning a house rather than renting, please present it.



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12 Sep 2025, 3:26 am

I have a friend who owns 5 to 10 homes. I think people like him are part of the reason why so many young people cant afford homes.



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12 Sep 2025, 12:53 pm

If I were rich all I would own is a quiet little cottage in the countryside. That's all I'll need. No way would I own multiple homes or own a huge mansion with 10 bedrooms, unless I was living with loads of people.


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12 Sep 2025, 5:10 pm

I also wonder why rich people need such large houses too?
Prince Harry and Megan Markle's Monteceieto - 9 bedrooms + 16 bathrooms
Bill Gates - 7 bedrooms, 6 kitchens and 24 bathrooms
Indian Mogul Ambani - 49 bedrooms, 49 bathrooms and multiple kitchens
there are literally hundreds of beggars/homeless outside Ambani's mansion.

But realestate is also a safe investment, so people will naturally buy more than one property.



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12 Sep 2025, 9:26 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I have a friend who owns 5 to 10 homes. I think people like him are part of the reason why so many young people cant afford homes.


But people like that do provide rental properties.