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01 Jun 2008, 4:17 pm

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Where did I say I wanted a Women's Only and that men should be excluded?

I just wish there were some females in the forum that knew what I was talking about or guys. Maybe it's an AS trait I don't know. I'm not generalizing men. I find it funny that that there's a bunch of generalizing in many forums of women esp the Love and Dating forum but you guys think I'm being sexist in this forum. That's why I included men in on this topic. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to bring it up since I don't know exactly how to word it in a way that doesn't sound soooo sexist toward men.


You didn't say that and I didn't accuse you of being sexist or generalizing. I made a special point of saying that you didn't say that lol. I said, in reply to the poster who suggested the women-only forum, that it would be over-generalizing to suggest this. I guess it was confusing because I was addressing the other replies to your post as well as your original post. Since I put everything in one reply, I can see where you might think I was criticizing you but that wasn't the case.

For the record, I don't think you are sexist towards men. I do think you have a tendency to get agitated when we men bring up legitimate problems we have with the way some women treat us (not all, just most that many of us have been interested in)... the nice guy vs. jerk phenomena, the "friend zone" phenomena, etc. Even though they aren't aimed at you, I think you have a tendency to take those personally, just from reading your responses to those threads. But like it or not, they are real issues that many of us have dealt with all of our lives and pointing them out and venting over them isn't misogyny. It would only be misogynous if we were to say all women were like this. (If someone does say this, then they deserve a verbal smackdown for it)
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03 Jun 2008, 1:36 am

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In my opinion the adult forum is a joke and it attracts perverts.

If you want questions answered in a female only environment, you can join my female aspie myspace group found at:

http://groups.myspace.com/femaleaspies

If any males want to hurl abuse at me, feel free to do so at: www.myspace.com/zeldarules or PM me on here.

You need a myspace account though, but I am the gatekeeper of that group and I do not let in ANY males. I've gotten insults in the past saying that i'm sexist, but tbh I don't care. Its for female aspies.

Joining my group will ensure you get no males making smart arse replies, but I cannot stop males from looking in there. If you want to be anonymous I suggest making an anonymous mysapce accuont and PMing me your myspace URL over PM here.



You mean the Adult forum attracts people with deviant sexual desires? Well yes thats what its for :wink: . I really have to wonder Why there is a womens discussion forum here on a site for Aspies. Yes there are aspie women but WHY did Alex set aside a forum just for women and eliminate a forum just for MEN?Furthermore, I have thought of starting an online group Exclusively for Aspie Men. Yes, that means NO WOMEN ! ! I must admit that at times I get sick of womens omnipresence and having to be "sensitive" to their BS all the time :x :P :lol: Compared to Aspie men, Aspie women are priviledged and quite spoiled.

BTW MissConstrue, this is NOT directed at you personally, Its directe against queefsters like hale_bopp, Liverbird, and MissPickwickian :D .



The Adult forum is pretty much the men's forum. You're very welcome to start an online group just for aspie men, I encourage it. What's a queefster?



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03 Jun 2008, 2:22 am

I imagine it's a reference to the sound made when air is forcefully expelled from the vagina due to the insertion of the penis or other object -- a 'queef'.

Honestly, D1nk0. The double-standard when it comes to sexism is distressing, yes, but attacking the 'other side' is not the way to go about fixing that.



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03 Jun 2008, 2:38 am

I have seen his picture, I think he's the queef



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03 Jun 2008, 2:49 am

Heh. I can't help but doubt he's ever heard a queef, if that's his usual persona.



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03 Jun 2008, 8:42 am

I was about to respond with some wrath to that last quote of dinko's but decided not to. That's somewhat of the stuff I'm talking about. I don't think everyone is like that but I do find so much of it that it does get to me.

I've had some of those words used at myself in the Adult Forum when posting a topic but in a jokingly matter. I have to say though, it's not that funny to me and it often feels like my topics get ignored or aren't taken serious. I'm not saying it happens all the time or by everyone, but it's gotten to the point where I really don't see the reason to post questions or serious and personal stuff in the Adult Forum anymore.

I thought some guys would actually kind of relate to this as I'm not saying it's exclusively a female issue but about topics that are serious.


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03 Jun 2008, 9:27 am

I definitely believe that menstruation is a private issue.



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03 Jun 2008, 11:36 am

I am a guy, so feel free to ignore. Most of the posts in the adults only forum do seem to be juvenile and spammy. I think sex and adult issues are a sore subject for many aspie men ( and probably women too) because of difficulties in forming these relationships especially when society judges a guy's worth based on your success in this arena. It seems like many of the women on this site are more advanced than the men, which is really the opposite from what you see in the real world. The end result is a lot of immature flirtations and attention seeking from the guys.


Miss Construe, you may want to start a sticky thread in this forum and label it '18 and above only', or ask someone to create a subforum for 18 and older people only. That might help, though true privacy or serious discussion seems unlikely in an open forum that depends on an honor code for age and gender.



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03 Jun 2008, 1:57 pm

Miss Construe, I know what you're saying and I agree entirely. I'm not sure what can be done though.

As for there being a women's discussion, I think it's justified if only for the fact that we aspie girls are outnumbered by a pretty large order - on here and in real life - and we need to stick together!! I have no problem with men reading it, as long as they're a bit more mature and respectful than those that tend to post in the adult forum. LoveableNerd vs D1nko being a prime example of what I'm talking about.

Think I'm going to join that myspace group.


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03 Jun 2008, 1:59 pm

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Think I'm going to join that myspace group.


Can I joint it too?
8O :wink:



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03 Jun 2008, 2:08 pm

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Think I'm going to join that myspace group.


Can I joint it too?
8O :wink:


I'm sure!

I'm making an alter-ego for it though, my myspace is slightly neglected but still a little too identifiable.


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03 Jun 2008, 8:49 pm

LoveableNerd wrote:
Too many women and men both have avatar pics that either mislead one to think they are the opposite gender, or are so gender neutral as to be anyone's guess.


I have no problem with that.

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Sure you can click their name or pic to view it on their profile, but (a)the view profile page on WP is agonizingly slow at times and (b)it becomes a real pain if a topic has 20 pages of posts in it.


and, (c) could have been lied on as well.

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A few may feel it is nobody's business and shouldn't matter what their gender is, only their opinion... fine then, don't list your gender and it can show "withheld" instead of male or female.


What if the person's a hermaphrodite?

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However, banning men from the women's forum and men from the women's forum isn't the best idea.


Not to mention unenforceable.

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I suppose flagging a topic as men-only or women-only might be an option if it is truly something you only want your own sex to read.


As above.

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But, I think it would be quite generalizing to say all men and only men make light of serious women's issues.


Well, I've been known to do that, and I'm female... OR AM I????????? :twisted:

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wouldn't it be best to be able to flag a topic as serious replies only, and then be given the ability to delete any posts that deviate from that? And perhaps add the poster to a banned list that can never again reply to another topic you've flagged as serious?


Alex, get on that, will ya? ;)



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04 Jun 2008, 11:07 am

am dont use the adult board or the other adult one,but regulary use this one,and having males involved in female things doesnt bother am.
what about putting something like --female readers only in the title if really do not want males reading it.


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05 Jun 2008, 5:58 pm

I just made an anonymous myspack profile for the aspie group. :D


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05 Jun 2008, 8:33 pm

I would like to see a topc in the Adult Section taken seriously at least once in a while. It's hard enough for any topic to be taken seriously but the few women that do post there are treated like, well, like any other woman around a group of h**** guys. They basically get whistled at and anything serious they say is turned into something sexual, whether it was meant to be or not. It's hard for a woman to be a woman in the Adult Section. I do joke in there some myself but only if the topic isn't meant to be serious, and not just in the Adult Section. In any serious topic, I give serious responses. I do have a wild side myself but I know when it's appropriate and when it isn't. In the Adult Section, my jokes are about me only, I don't target anyone else. I know that some women don't like to be treated that way, I'm sure most if not all don't. Women would rather be listened to and taken seriously than be bombarded with rude, sexual comments.


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