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06 Dec 2025, 9:31 am

When I was growing up young women were often told not to be too polite.

One of the reasons is that it's very common for politeness to be taken as appeasement and appeasement as an indication that someone can get away with testing a boundary.

Being very polite sometimes means that women are put in the position of then needing to be more assertive than they'd like to be... in order to manage responses to that politeness.

I am thinking of bosses, male and female, and also blokes.

I don't know what I'd tell young women these days. It's nice to be polite. But perhaps it requires you to be tough as nails underneath.

I think I'd say... you've got to learn to trust your own judgement.



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06 Dec 2025, 11:12 pm

kuen wrote:
When I was growing up young women were often told not to be too polite.

One of the reasons is that it's very common for politeness to be taken as appeasement and appeasement as an indication that someone can get away with testing a boundary.

Being very polite sometimes means that women are put in the position of then needing to be more assertive than they'd like to be... in order to manage responses to that politeness.

I am thinking of bosses, male and female, and also blokes.

I don't know what I'd tell young women these days. It's nice to be polite. But perhaps it requires you to be tough as nails underneath.

I think I'd say... you've got to learn to trust your own judgement.
I'm assuming you were responding to my boss thread. Unfortunately, my boss written me up days ago. At first, I was hurt after my HR meeting but right now I am trying to keep my eyes on the prize. In other words think optimistic.

Hopefully I can move back to my previous warehouse that way I won't have him behind my back. In the mean time I am planning to keep saving up and eventually go to community college maybe during the late fall. At least I can finally escape from this hell hole.

As for your growing as tough nails analogy. I have tried growing thick skin. But I don't think suppressing my emotions worked out very well. Maybe it's due to my PTSD and depression which often hinders my productivity. Ironically, I think being too optimistic can be very dangerous. In my case I thought I would get by without being sent to HR. But now looked what happened.



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13 Dec 2025, 6:49 am

Oh I apologise ArcticVixen. I can see why that felt a bit too on the nose for you.

You're in a tough spot. That's a really stressful situation.

I grew up singing this song:


"Recognise your value!"

...it is easier said than done :)

What I am hoping for my nieces (and other young women) is that they will have the confidence to trust their own judgement, refrain from second-guessing themselves, be kind to themselves when things go wrong. That is 'tough as nails' to me.

Community college sounds wonderful. That is a fantastic plan. I hope you will really enjoy it.



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22 Dec 2025, 2:56 pm

It'd be nice to get a period this side of Christmas


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24 Dec 2025, 2:09 pm

Oh my tits are well tender

I'll take that as a sign


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26 Dec 2025, 1:27 pm

When did people start talking about "perimenopause" anyway
In the olden days it was just all called "menopause"

At least as far as I know anyway


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26 Dec 2025, 6:57 pm

kuen wrote:
Oh I apologise ArcticVixen. I can see why that felt a bit too on the nose for you.

You're in a tough spot. That's a really stressful situation.

I grew up singing this song:


"Recognise your value!"

...it is easier said than done :)

What I am hoping for my nieces (and other young women) is that they will have the confidence to trust their own judgement, refrain from second-guessing themselves, be kind to themselves when things go wrong. That is 'tough as nails' to me.

Community college sounds wonderful. That is a fantastic plan. I hope you will really enjoy it.


That was certainly a lovely little vid there . Smart little piece of advise .


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05 Jan 2026, 6:17 pm

:heart: I don't actually have anything to say I am just glad you liked the vid, Jakki

I sing it to myself when I need to boost my gumption :mrgreen:



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07 Jan 2026, 6:30 pm


Don't get married girls
It's very badly paid


I didn't know she sang this Dubliners song.

This is not a serious song :P

I like Vera Aspey's voice a lot. I grew up with her Blackbird album, which has several songs I like about women's labour.


I have in fact once or twice been told to consider becoming a nun :mrgreen: it's what women have traditionally done to avoid endless housework/child-bearing, and also it was a way to access travel and higher education. I would have were it not for my inconvenient atheism.



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13 Jan 2026, 6:11 am

I like to keep my bush tidy I do


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06 Feb 2026, 7:10 am

My period is giving me symptoms to remind me that it wants to make my life a misery for a week. ''Oh, no, you don't,'' I say, as I pop the first pill from this month's batch into my mouth, after taking the last pill from last month's batch yesterday.


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14 Feb 2026, 3:43 pm

Got a weird spot on my left breast nipple that hurts. Could be a pimple or something else harmless but I guess a trip to the doctor on Monday wouldn't go amiss. Only thing is, I hate waiting in a waiting-room near people coughing around me, but I don't think I have any facemasks now. I think people with virus-related conditions should wait in a separate area, because I don't want flu or covid.


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14 Feb 2026, 4:18 pm

I still have a dozen unused KN95 facemasks. I think if I run out I'll buy more.
I usually been able to wait outside in my winter coat if it is crowded.



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15 Feb 2026, 6:49 am

At my doctor surgery they have a system where you come in between 8 and 10 in the morning and just sit in the waiting-room until you are called. While it's a good way of dealing with the worryingly overcrowding of the NHS system, it can mean you could be waiting for an hour or more to be seen, which can be a nightmare for ADHD folk. I become very restless in my seat even if I have my phone to occupy me. So it's why I tend to avoid going to the doctor unless it's absolutely urgent.


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19 Feb 2026, 10:22 am

I got my Austic Barbie last week!



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19 Feb 2026, 11:33 am

Nice I have one of those, I bought it mostly for the keyboard she has to use as a prop for a different figurine.


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