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15 Mar 2009, 10:09 pm

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Good for you! :D You ought to join the Catholic Church. It'll take awhile to get used to, but it's very nice.


yuck!

you like anything fun-stay away from catholics
I stopped being a catholic at 3(when I figured out it was really stupid!)
christianity can be good
but there are a lot of "f****d up sects"



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16 Mar 2009, 3:58 am

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Yep, and that just sums it up. Hopefully in years to come, people will just be looking back and laughing at the concept of religion.
I doubt that will ever happen. Humanity will be extinct before they develop that kind of intelligence. :roll:


Yeah, probably :(


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16 Mar 2009, 5:23 am

Which line isn't true?

I'm a christian. (Catholic persuasion.)
my dad is a well known australian hymn composer.
my uncle is a priest.
my dad went into the Catholic seminary at age 14 or so.
My grandparents' house was covered wall to ceiling with Catholic depictions of Christ and the Madonna.
My great aunt was a nun.
I am related to the first Australian Catholic Saint (still being beatified but on the way there.)
My other uncle left the priesthood for f*****g a woman and getting her pregnant.
my dad got asked to leave one of the most prestigious seminaries in Rome (attached to the Vatican.)
My Granny and Grandfatehr lived opposite the parish church and went to mass nearly every day. (6 am service)



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19 Mar 2009, 8:28 am

I'd recommend full research on Catholic churches, Protestant churches, and Orthodox churches before making a final call. I don't know much about the Orthodox churches, but one could argue that Protestant churches are idolatrous of the Bible in as much as Catholics worship Mary and drink the blood of saints. Honestly, interdenominational bickering is full of hot steaming fertilizer IMHO, which is one of the reasons I tend to avoid apologetics altogether. However, if you intend to walk the path of Christianity, make sure you find a church which brings you closer to Christ and only Christ, not somebody's idealistic version of him.



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19 Mar 2009, 2:42 pm

^ and where pray tell, do you find the real Christ? and not the idealised versions?



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19 Mar 2009, 6:16 pm

I honestly don't feel like I fit into any religion, though I try my best to humbly follow God through Jesus Christ, as the old saying goes, constantly praying for God to reveal his will to me. However, as I said, I'm not getting into apologetics. :wink:



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20 Mar 2009, 2:38 am

You need to persuade me that I will feel better with whoever if I really need to fit into any religion...



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24 Mar 2009, 10:17 am

Hi BellaDonna and I am happy you are pursuing the Christian life. Please keep your faith---it is wonderful. My new motto is "My journey has just begun." I am relating that to two things---religion and autism. Though I became a Christian more than 15 years ago, I am just launching a music ministry. This ministry has come out of my learning I was autistic. So the two things have come together to allow me the opportunity to do this ministry---I am praying that I will be able to speak effectively in front of these churches (the music is comfortable, the speaking...well...we will see). I am currently the church organist at a Methodist church. The churches I have scheduled to do my ministry with (with music on dulcimers) are Methodist churches so far.

My belief is that God created me autistic because of the gifts it has given me. Now, I will be using those gifts in this ministry. I hope all goes well for you. You must find a church that you are comfortable with. God bless you.


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17 Apr 2009, 4:58 pm

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^^ok I get it.

and I still laugh sometimes at your story with Mother Theresa being a crackhead lesbian prostitute. :lol:


A crackhead lesbian prostitute would be a step up from that vile woman.



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17 Apr 2009, 5:00 pm

Kenjuudo wrote:
Q: Why are we religious?
A: Because we want answers and we are afraid of dying.

Q: Why do we want answers?
A: Because otherwise, we'd think too much about topics that are impossible to find an answer for in the first place.

Q: Why are we afraid of dying?
A: Because it's the unknown. We are automatically afraid of things we don't understand.

Q: There are literally hundreds of religions. What religion is the correct one?
A: Short answer: None. Long answer (in short terms): Everyone have positive moral values. Choose the one that fits your lifestyle.

Q: What alternatives are there to religion?
A: Atheism. I've spent a LOT of time thinking about all the topics that religion hands you the prefabricated answers to.

Let's take the concept of God. What you see in the world is what you get. God's existance is logically impossible because whenever science expands it's horizons, God needs to be pushed further away. This will in essence continue forever.

Let's take the concept of death. All current physics theories dictate that an absolute nothingness or end is physically impossible. Energy can't disappear from the universe, it can only change form. It is therefore impossible that death is the ultimate end anyway, so why believing in a fantasy figure?

Let's take the concept of consciousness. You sit inside your head and look out of your eyes. What is looking? What is the "me"? Is it physical? If not, it doesn't have to be energy, does it? -- Well, it's not exactly physical. I believe consciousness is an illusion. An additional effect of being intelligent. Also, it has been developed through the advancement of language and the fact that we have communicated with each other and found out that we are, in fact, individuals. Also, people "back then" began to create tools and devices to help them in the daily life. It soon became impossible for them to imagine that anything could exist without having a creator. (Yes, this is very simplified. I could take the long discussion somewhere else though.)

But SOMETHING had to create the universe. Sure, but using the same deductive logics; Something had to create the something that created the universe and we are back to square 1. Who created God?

Religions answer this with a simple "God is eternal". Great! Discussion ends there. (It's impossible to fight against dedicated bigotry.)


Brilliant. [applause]