How is armchair diagnosing not against the rules?

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Unless they were told by a doctor but I don't think that is what you meant. I couldn't resist.

But even if someone were seeing a doctor and the doctor said that and the patient believed it without reading about it first to see if it fits, that can be dangerous. Especially if it was just a label the doctor told the patient in one session without knowing their history first and the reasons behind their symptoms. But if it was after many sessions and the doctor brought it up, I think anyone would just read about that diagnoses than blindly believing it. Then they would discuss the symptoms with their doctor and other things about it. Also join a forum too about it. I would think that is a rational thing to do.

Whilst I do not definitively know, as in having an official diagnosis, my own research has lead me to believe I have, in order of likelihood, NVLD and Aspergic traits. Other things include dysgraphia and dyspraxia.
I will always clarify things by saying I believe I have rather than I know(for certain) I have.
Whilst diagnosis is the prerogative of a psychologist or psychiatrist I do believe many of us are intelligent enough to do the research and arrive at a reasonable conclusion as to what our problem is likely to be.
The idea that only psychologists and psychiatrists are capable of knowing,as though they hold a monopoly on intelligence,doesn't sit easy with me.

If people want to suggest,not claim for certain, that I belong or not belong here then that is fine. I guess there will be as many different opinions as to who fits,or who doesn't,as there are a-holes.

yes, i meant if they were told by people on here.

i do think it is always better to be slowly "brought into" a diagnosis over time, after the doctor has gotten to know the patient, and vice versa.

otherwise it might come off as just wanting to give you the label you suspected and have the next patient come in, if that ever happens. but i expect most aren't that way.

flippant doctors are truly a danger.

In this thread (https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopi ... 0&start=15 ), one poster says, "Oh, you are definitely ASD of some sort". (I have posts in that thread too, and the OP did not come off as autistic/Aspie to me.) There are some people saying others are adefinitely autistic.

What is a "corner-case Aspie"?

One case does not make definitive armchair diagnosing a significant issue. I am positive if I had software to scan all the threads I would find a bunch of claims saying the OP is definitely on the spectrum. The does not make it a significant phenomenon. In the sections I read, it is pretty rare these days.

I do think blanket statements that celebrities and historical figures are aspies without caveats or any evidence is a significant phenomenon on WP and elsewhere. But I do not advocate banning these type of posts. I just post why I disagree with doing that when I feel like it.

If armchair diagnosis could be interpreted as gas lighting then I suppose it would warrant moderation IMO.
However, being unqualified to talk about a subject but talking about it anyway isn't exactly a crime or breach of forum guidelines as far as I can tell. It's harmless, annoying at best.

A corner-case Aspie is someone who is on the dar end of what is diagnosable as Asperger's.

To explain, consider the thread viewtopic.php?t=298539 , in which the OP asks: "What thing ("symptom" / "quirk" / whatever) do you think is something that is true of almost ALL (90 to 100 percent) ASDers?"

Some of the responses were:

special interests
stimming
bluntness
urge to monologue (manifest in some, repressed in others)

Assuming these being 90-100% are accurate appraisals, then let's say we have this Aspie named Jeff. Jeff doesn't have a special interest, he doesn't stim, it's not in his nature to be blunt, and he never wants to monologue. He does however have just enough of the core traits to be diagnosed with Asperger's. The odds that an Aspie would be lacking all four of these would be 0.01%. A person who fails all 4 criteria is pretty unlikely to be an Aspie, but there is always that 1-in-10,000.

I thank you for the explanation, and I assume you actually mean it is the diagnosable stuff that is at the far end and not the Aspie.

Yes, I do!

What is a flippant doctor?

That person didn't even list anything about themselves except for their AQ score.

Folks BEG you to armchair diagnose them. So what are you to do?

Ideally everyone on WP would do what I do -which is to tack on the disclaimer that "you really need to be diagnosed by a professional healthcare worker (face to face) in the exhaustive battery of tests they use to know if you really are autistic/aspie" before they launch into "you sound like an aspie to me, I do the same sorta stuff" (which I also do). But you cant choreograph the whole population of Wrongplanet to do that. And its not really a crime if a person doesnt slap on that disclaimer. If new folks post their life story and then beg you to give them feedback of course you are going to respond by sharing your own experiences with the person.

What usually happens is a sharing of information freely and giving people the requested signposts to develop their self knowledge. How can giving feedback to a person about their ASD traits even be considered armchair diagnosing

I linked to page 2 of that thread. Look on page 1.

Well that OP has already been diagnosed so it's impossible to armchair diagnose. We can only armchair undiagnose.