Masculine Physical Characteristics?

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hello

right male physical traits where to tart i am always being mistaken for a bloke, even though i am only five four, i have male hair patterns, i have to shave my face every day or else i would have a beard, i have hairy legs, belly, chest, back and lower arms as well, my biceps look definetly masculine, my shoulder waist hip thing seems more masculine then female, i have huge feet lol, when i used to have long hair and wear skirts ppl would think i was a drag queen, i dress as a male, and have short hair, oh and i have high testosterone levels, i have a wife and generally think like a man, , if i think of any more i'll update this lol, but a fair start i think

Aside from male tendancies about the minds of the female spectrum from what i have been reading in other posts. I get hair sometimes in places where it normally would'nt be i suppose lol, but shaving just comes in as a chore i can't get myself to do on a routine because its winter anyways. Otherwise i appear to be completely female.

I'm a mix. I can't stand girly talk, but I'm maternal as all get out. I have the female figure, the hair, the complexion, the hands except for the so-
called male finger ratio...

I like shopping, but it's because I look at everything. I also prefer to shop alone. I get ideas for art, or just looking at patterns, or shoes, smelling perfumes. A young guy at a department store gave me a sample of a new expensive men's perfume, which was lovely--citrus-y, and not musky at all.

I like kids, just not enough to have ever considered having one. I didn't need to. Everyone else did, and I'm aunty. Now I'm great aunty, and that's just as fun, and because I don't do girly, I get to roll around and wrassle with them...really great for the rheumatiz. Great exercise, though.

Voice, very female. However, my speech pattern seems to surprise some people, like they are trying to figure me out. I must not have the female dialect down or something, or I'm misreading people. I'm pretty good at that, being Aspie and all.

Hm...if anything I am a rounded personality and look female. I am in control of my life, I am independent, I have friends I can count on, I'm finally learning to set boundaries in my old age, I can enjoy girly, my version of girly, and can fruits and chop wood.

Metta, R.

WhenI had really short hair, people would call me sir as well. Partly because I was always in uniform (I'm in the US Army). I don't get mistaken as a man anymore though; I always have my hair in this HUUUGE bun ahahahaha it's really thick and dark.

I have large muscles from working out all the time, manly legs from being strong and running, and I have slight man-hands....

I have a girly figure though...I might be strong, but I still have boobs and earrings. That, and since I've mellowed out I look more femenine and have even been spotted wearing a skirt from time to time.,,,

Even when I was thin, 100lbs / 5'2", I didn't have much of a waist or hips. Now that I'm heavier, I look even more "boxy"...however, one of my best friends in high school always told me that he thought I was very feminine looking and acting, although I have never felt that I was.

When I was younger I was always mistaken for a boy when I had short hair. Now that I'm older, when my hair is not long, I still see my face as masculine...

Although, everyone has always told me I look exactly like Reese Witherspoon...is she manly looking?

Is OP Liberty male or female?

I'll list just a few reasons why I find this thread offensive.

1. Noone asks if ASD boys have feminine physiques to go with their geeky, passive minds. To do so would be to stereotype and insult them physically and psychologically and noone would reply.

2. Saying that women on the spectrum are masculine is as ridiculous as saying that lesbians are masculine. It's just prejudice.

3. Most women are flatter or fatter and hairier than pictures of female bodies on TV and in magazines. That's what's normal, whether NT or AS.

4. I think this is just another way to for some guys to ogle the women on the board.

There is a point, though. Some research shows higher levels of testosterone in utero can lead to autism.
What about "male brains" - has this been discussed? I took a test, and I tested like a bloke (I'm a straight woman with 3 kids - science nerd).

What test was that? I once did a test that said "Determine your gender". I took it truthfully, and it said it was 80% certain that I was a woman. Then I went back, and changed one question only... and it said that it was 80% certain that I was a man! So, in other words, the test was based on one question, and the rest of the questions were just minor points for variety.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/ ... user.shtml

It's a good quality BBC test...

have fun!

I haven't really thought about this: have there been any studies?

I've always had a naturally athletic build, and I'm never going to be a size zero (but I'm not overweight either). When I work out, I tend to develop more muscles quite quickly. I'm taller than average for a woman. Other things? I have a square-ish jaw, broad shoulders, flat feet, large hands.

There is a thread by Sophist on "Gestalt"( http://www.asdgestalt.com/index.php ) about it, refering to an article by Baron-Cohen.

The theory is called "The androgen theory of autism", which proposes that autism spectrum disorders are associated with higher levels of testosterone in people with ASD and their mothers. More of these women had conditions that are related to high male hormone levels such as hirsuitism, irregular menstrual cycle, polycystic ovary syndrome, severe acne, epilepsy, tomboyism, and family history of ovarian, uterine, and prostate cancers or were bisexual/asexual.

But it's just a theory!

Interesting, I scored "0"! Although I think I did the angle test wrong, as I was only measuring the angle, not the side that it was leaning towards... I don't know what I was thinking.
And I got 9/10 in guessing people's expressions! Of course, I can't apply it to real life as I don't look at people's faces, but I do watch a lot of films.

Thanks for posting that!

Femasc topic

Jeepers! I look like a woman, albeit an older one. I seem to be an even split between male and female. I guess I should get along with both sexes. I score average on the typical spatial-mental rotation things. Then I score low in the vocabulary area. What???? I love words. Then I asked my NT children and they said: "Mom, you are very quiet. And you have no imagination." All I could do was shake my head.

And then it hit me. All I can do is write. Speaking is difficult. I am visual and I think in pictures, then in words. I suppose I was doing the test literally. So there you go. If this is Aspie, at least for me, then there you go.

I have no tits and a massively penile clitoris. I've been mistaken for a man when naked.

I have been frequently told I think like a man. I do have some facial hair but I also had overlarge breasts (before I had a reduction). As a child I was more of a tomboy and even now I am not really into girly things but there is no danger of me being mistaken for a guy. I do try, however, to avoid anything that looks masculine. I don't want to offend any lesbians on this forum, but I have observed that the more masculine a woman appears the more likely others will assume she is lesbian and will treat her accordingly. My workplace seems to have a high percentage of gays and lesbians; and while they seem to be more accepted now, it was not always the case. Seeing as I was already struggling with social acceptance due to Aspergers issues, I did not (and still do not) wish to be stigmatized further. Furthermore, if it became known that I was hanging around lesbians, I could kiss my chances of attracting a male partner goodbye. Sorry, ladies, but I am simply not interested in seeking a female partner and I do not want to give the impression that I am. Otherwise I don't really have a problem with gays and lesbians. What they do is their business and what I do is my business.

I'm definitely female shaped - very curvy, I developed early and was the first girl in my class wearing a bra at age 9! Periods always very regular. Don't know if I'm fertile or not, because I've chosen not to have kids - not that I don't think babies are extremely cute and all, but the responsibility of caring 24/7 for a tiny human simply scares me spitless, is all.

I do have two 'male' things.

First, I am hairy. I've been doing bleachy creamy things to this here mustache since I was in my teens, and I have pretty hairy legs. Having said that, I'm smooth in most other places and I think it's just a family trait - my mother's pretty hairy in those places too. I got a double whammy, unfortunately, because my dad had very thick dark body hair, and my brother, when he has his shirt off, looks like Sasquatch. So I don't think that's purely a masculine thing so much as bad genetic luck.

Second, my voice. I've been told I have a 'lovely husky voice' (by my boss's wife, and I'm pretty sure she intended it as a compliment). I can sing quite low notes. I don't know exactly what my range is, but given any four-part thing, I can usually manage the tenor parts and sometimes the bass! Again, this may just be the genetic luck of the draw, I don't know.

I suspect that by designating some physical traits 'masculine' and some 'feminine', we're over-simplifying things. They told us in psych class there are five levels of gender.
There are the genes you have - XX, XY or various other combinations.
There are the hormones you're exposed to in the womb, depending on a) whether you have testes, ovaries, or sometimes both, and b) what's going on in your mom's body when you're in her womb. (That part is where the brain theory comes in.)
There are the genitals you develop, and bear in mind there are various halfway houses between penis-and-scrotum and clitoris-and-vagina-with-labia.
There's the social thing - whether you're raised as a boy or a girl.
And finally, there's whether you're sexually attracted to men, women or both.
Thing is, none of these levels necessarily correspond in the obvious ways you might 'expect' them to. My guess is that there's a spectrum with a completely hypothetical hyper-male man at one end, an equally hypothetical hyper-female woman at the other, and most if not all of us actually fall somewhere in between. Including in brain function.

This really wouldn't be a problem if society in general wasn't so hot on putting people in one of two fixed categories. Unfortunately, the closer you fall to the center, the more people are likely to see you as some kind of 'freak'. I only have to leave my mustache untreated for a few weeks to be well aware of that!