Quiet Reflections on a Growing Polyamorous Community
Regardless of how one feels about polyamory itself, the organized polyamory subculture has some important autistic-friendly aspects, such as (1) an encouragement of clear communication rather than relying on subtle hints and (2) an emphasis on consent.
From Autism and Consent by Kirsten Lindsmith, January 16, 2018:
Something I really like about poly people is how much emphasis they put on normalizing consent. I assume as a consequence of adapting to a romantic life that requires intense levels of communication, consent culture has made its way into every aspect of the poly social world—normal social gatherings included!
Once, years ago, I was new to the city, hanging out at a party with my poly friends. I was talking to a stranger (who was unaware of my diagnosis) about something or other. He talked with his hands quite a bit, and at one point moved to touch my arm to emphasize a point, the way neurotypicals sometimes do. Mid-motion, he stopped himself and said “do you mind if I touch you?”
To my autistic, touch-sensitive self, it was amazing! Mind-blowing! Miraculous! The clouds parted and angels sang.
I think I said something like, “Thanks for asking, I actually don’t really like to be touched in conversation.” He said, “Ok cool thanks for letting me know,” and the conversation continued on as normal.
That brief moment completely changed my world. I was astonished at how much more comfortable I felt at this party, knowing that people were going to ask me before touching me. When it was time to leave, and the friend that brought me was hugging everyone goodbye, someone turned to me smiling and said “are you a hugger?” We high fived instead.
So my rule is, when in doubt, I emulate what I learned from my poly friends: Ask!
And I promise it’s possible to ask without making things awkward, despite what media talking heads, college guys, and porn like to imply.
Are you staring deep into someone’s eyes (ew eye contact) wondering if it’s ok to kiss them? Say, “can I kiss you?”
It really is that simple.
I know I personally always appreciate having scripts on file, so here’s a small list of further phrasing ideas:
“Can I touch you?”
“Is this ok?”
“Just let me know if anything is uncomfortable”
“Does this feel ok?”
“How do you like to be touched? Light or firm?”
“Should I get a condom?”
“Do you want to keep going?”
“How far are you ok with going tonight?”
“Are you ok?”
When in doubt: ASK. If you’re just assuming the answer: ASK. If you’re hoping for a yes and don’t want to ask in case they say no: ASK. If you’re trying to “convince” someone to have sex with you: Stop, and ASK! Always.
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This is in contrast to things like same sex couples or kink where it doesn't really impact people that are choosing not to participate.
Based on my university biology classes, humans have evolved to be monogamous (like many animals) due to child rearing, however it's somewhat controversial. Humans evolved from the same ancestors as chimpanzees. Chimpanzees are not monogamous. They are generally polyandrous, meaning they have a promiscuous mating system where both males and females mate with multiple partners usually preferring an alpha/dominant.
Based on this its likely monogamy originated as a social construct. Hunter gatherer societies follow something called serial monogamy where ostensibly there is pairing, however females will cheat, especially with a more dominant male. In almost all societies dominant males almost always attempt to mate with as many women as possible. while successful/alpha single people going through multiple partners hardly registers any surprise anymore, however, polyamory between married couples is universally considered philandering and socially judged.
I suspect polyamorous couples develop some level of dissonance over their life decisions due to social judgement. My own take is people can live however they want, provided the polyamory is between consenting adults and the lifestyle doesn't cause harm to anyone. I'm not a conservative right winger who seem to be obsessed/judgemental with what other people do in the privacy of their homes.
I think the most natural situation for people is probably something along the lines of serial monogamy, I seem to remember that often times humans get together long enough to raise children long enough for the children to have some ability to participate in society. Beyond that, couples often times seem to have issues keeping it together and it's a bit debatable as to whether there's any real benefit in doing so.
Like a lot of things, there's a spectrum from largely informal groupings to ones where it's formally required to have a specific ratio like they had with the FLDS and outright kicking out boys to maintain the 1 to 3 ratio they needed. People are going to be judgy, but the more formal it is, the more of a practical reason there is for being judgy. Especially in modern societies where sleeping around and having kids out of wedlock doesn't have the taboo it used to.
That’s a fair point — serial monogamy does seem to fit how a lot of people naturally operate, at least in modern contexts. The idea of staying together long enough to raise kids to a functional stage definitely lines up with patterns you see historically and culturally. At the same time, there are also plenty of examples of long-term pair bonds that last a lifetime and work really well, so I think it’s less about one “natural” way and more about what works for the people involved.
I agree with you about the spectrum. When relationships get more formalized (like strict ratios, or rigidly enforced community structures), they tend to invite outside judgment because they’re being treated almost like institutions rather than just personal arrangements. On the other hand, when things are informal or just between consenting adults, most people don’t care nearly as much these days.
I guess in the end it comes down to flexibility — letting people find the arrangement that makes the most sense for their lives, instead of trying to force one model on everyone.
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From Autism and Consent by Kirsten Lindsmith, January 16, 2018:
Something I really like about poly people is how much emphasis they put on normalizing consent. I assume as a consequence of adapting to a romantic life that requires intense levels of communication, consent culture has made its way into every aspect of the poly social world—normal social gatherings included!
Once, years ago, I was new to the city, hanging out at a party with my poly friends. I was talking to a stranger (who was unaware of my diagnosis) about something or other. He talked with his hands quite a bit, and at one point moved to touch my arm to emphasize a point, the way neurotypicals sometimes do. Mid-motion, he stopped himself and said “do you mind if I touch you?”
To my autistic, touch-sensitive self, it was amazing! Mind-blowing! Miraculous! The clouds parted and angels sang.
I think I said something like, “Thanks for asking, I actually don’t really like to be touched in conversation.” He said, “Ok cool thanks for letting me know,” and the conversation continued on as normal.
That brief moment completely changed my world. I was astonished at how much more comfortable I felt at this party, knowing that people were going to ask me before touching me. When it was time to leave, and the friend that brought me was hugging everyone goodbye, someone turned to me smiling and said “are you a hugger?” We high fived instead.
So my rule is, when in doubt, I emulate what I learned from my poly friends: Ask!
And I promise it’s possible to ask without making things awkward, despite what media talking heads, college guys, and porn like to imply.
Are you staring deep into someone’s eyes (ew eye contact) wondering if it’s ok to kiss them? Say, “can I kiss you?”
It really is that simple.
I know I personally always appreciate having scripts on file, so here’s a small list of further phrasing ideas:
“Can I touch you?”
“Is this ok?”
“Just let me know if anything is uncomfortable”
“Does this feel ok?”
“How do you like to be touched? Light or firm?”
“Should I get a condom?”
“Do you want to keep going?”
“How far are you ok with going tonight?”
“Are you ok?”
When in doubt: ASK. If you’re just assuming the answer: ASK. If you’re hoping for a yes and don’t want to ask in case they say no: ASK. If you’re trying to “convince” someone to have sex with you: Stop, and ASK! Always.
Most deffinately you could also inculde:
How is everyone feeling?
and
Does anything need to be changed or altered?
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One of my ancestors was busted for polygamy in 1900. He was convicted and paid a $500 fine, which was a lot of money in those days. Then he went on with his life.l
Chinese culture accepts polygamy for the very wealthy. He had wives in different countries and made the mistake of getting caught for bringing over two of them.
Sable Noctis
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Chinese culture accepts polygamy for the very wealthy. He had wives in different countries and made the mistake of getting caught for bringing over two of them.
polygamy and Polyamory are two different things, Polygamy is Multi Marriage which is illegal in most countries even today, Polyamory is Multi Relationship without marriage. I believe you have gotten them mixed up, or you placed them under the same umbrella them without understanding what they were.
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