I am a member of a movement, what do you think about it

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I cannot find the benefit in it.


Only if you're limiting immigration based on characteristics such as ethnicity which don't inherently affect your worldview, behavior, etc. Limiting the immigration of allists should be of no consequence.


I downright refuse to keep trying to advocate for more rights to people who genuinely despise us and are actively working on programs to genocide us out of existence.


Me when the visiting friends and family is mysteriously banned from the neurocity


We generally tend towards not engaging in or at least opposing idiotic social norms.


Yeah, we're not trying to build a perfect utopia. That's not possible. We know that. We're trying to build a place we can live without being persecuted and genocided.

Most people don’t. That doesn’t mean that none exist.

Yep, most autists are full collaborationist unfortunately. Genuine advocates for neuroequality are morally fine, imo, just extremely naive.


Can you describe the perceived benefits?

The benefits are contingent on factors I already alluded to in a previous post. As a former special education teacher and as someone who subbed throughout my school district, I had some autistic students who loved school and for disparate reasons. Some liked the structure and routine, close relationships they formed with teachers (not unique to a traditional setting), and resources. Some school districts have a lot of resources for a wide array of extracurriculars and trips. Smaller schools typically can’t provide as many opportunities.

It’s a huge topic that’s hard to adequately address, but a traditional school setting isn’t without its benefits and it is right for some students. I knew one student who went to a Montessori school but who decided to switch to a traditional school because it was better for him. Every kid, including every autistic kid, is different, so it’s good to have a variety of options to choose from.

Fair enough. But I do believe every system within the neurotown should at least be autist-oriented, so even if someone would function better in a traditional school system, accomodations would be the default.

What do you mean? It seems like you are promoting autistic supremacy in a couple of recent comments.

Nope, just separation. I just want them to leave us alone in peace. I don't believe coexistence is feasible. I also don't believe us to be superior.

A fatal flaw in your plan of autistic utopia

Most autistic adults even those relatively hf live with their NT parents as they have problems living alone, many others require NT carers for a few hours each day.

So you would have lots of NT parents and carers, possibly NT siblings walking around town all day, defeating the original object of a town solely for autistic people.

If the parents are of working age you would need to provide work for them to pay the bills.

Of course your plan maybe to exclude by default those of us with higher needs , maybe you should state this.

Coexistence seems to be working for a lot of autistics.

Bro's reaction when he learns of autistic caregivers:


Nope


85% unemployment rate. A$. JRC. 6x more likely to die from suicide.

I don’t think those numbers will improve as much as you think they will, if at all, in an autistic city. The unemployment rate isn’t solely about discrimination, nor is the suicide rate.

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Not solely, but mostly, largely.

I’m skeptical that that’s the biggest factor. Many people with autism are disabled. Many have comorbids as well.

If the government supported those who can’t maintain employment as it often does, I think you’d have trouble keeping the city operating as it needs to because there wouldn’t be enough workers, perhaps especially not for certain types of jobs.

There's a lot of negativity and trouble seeking expressed here in the responses to this idea of an autistic town. There are a lot of independent living autistic people in today's society that work and support themselves. Many of them are medicial doctors, policemen, architects or working in the tech business. This "autistic town" would probably not be heaven on earth but I think as an autistic you would be significantly less disabled there and be better functioning.

^ I wasn’t suggesting that there aren’t a lot of successful people with autism or that there isn’t a great deal of variation in terms of ability. I was merely engaging with the statistic (presented by someone else) which demonstrates that there are many who aren’t so successful and why I think the movement isn’t likely to work which seems to have been a solicited opinion based on the title of the thread.

OP, since men are much more likely to receive an autism diagnosis than women, would there be more men in the town?

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I can't believe someone actually made such a claim. At worst, racism might have been the result of choosing to hire whites rather than blacks, but they would still be hiring.

These days, it is reportedly difficult for a white male to find a job after college in the US.

Back in the late 70's or early 80's, there was one black athlete who was offered a scholarship at one of the top football universities in the US. He turned it down for a scholarship at a small college that isn't even in the NCAA.

My younger brother was talking to him one day and asked about that. The response went something like this: "I could have gone to *TOP*FOOTBALL*SCHOOL* and got to play and I'd have been a big man on campus, but I would never have graduated. After four years, I'd be back on the farm without much of a job. That's what I'm trying to avoid. Coming to this school, I got plenty of playing time and lots of acceptance on campus, but more important is that I can graduate from this school. Being Black and with a college degree and with affirmative action, I will never have to be without a good paying job the rest of my life. Employers will line up to hire me." And he was entirely correct.