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StickBugette
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14 Aug 2025, 6:33 am

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Perhaps you don't mask, which is always an option.
But I find I need to mask all the time, and it's exhausting for me. It wouldn't be exhausting if it was the real me.



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14 Aug 2025, 7:13 am

StickBugette wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Perhaps you don't mask, which is always an option.
But I find I need to mask all the time, and it's exhausting for me. It wouldn't be exhausting if it was the real me.


That's okay.

I'm generally myself when around people I know but find myself masking more when I'm in public around strangers. It's because rules are different in public, you have to sort of be a clone to everyone else and not show your emotions much or talk about certain things. NTs become easily self-conscious and embarrassed in public, which I've also inherited over the years, so as an adult I get self-conscious and embarrassed in public too, maybe to a more extreme. So I become more anxious and feel I have to keep up a bland persona and not express any emotions except light happiness, otherwise people look.
When I'm around people like my family or at work, I relax more and be myself, express my emotions, chat away and not have to mask enough to make me exhausted.
I can be shy at large gatherings with a lot of people I don't know, but it's still easier than being around strangers in public, because people at gatherings are there to chat and get to know you, so I find eye contact and smiling more natural.
I tend to avoid eye contact with strangers in public, unless there's a reason to make eye contact then I do automatically. But it's exhausting to avoid eye contact, but I feel more self-conscious in public and feel afraid of meeting people's eyes in case I catch them staring at me and then I feel more self-conscious. Strangers are known to just stare at each other and judge.


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14 Aug 2025, 11:02 am

Seeing through nonsense, NT groupthink (for example, character assassinations of absent colleagues) and reacting to it with a sudden outburst, has got me into trouble a few times in a previous workplace - the sales people and IT people didn't mix well at all, but the small workplace meant we had to.



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14 Aug 2025, 8:07 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
There's some irony in this thread; even some of the examples posters have given of seeing through nonsense amount to embracing nonsense and/or disinformation. :lol:


This bears repeating...

It seems like people are mistakenly believing that if something doesn't make sense to them personally, then it must therefore be "nonsense".

As you've said, more than a bit ironic that claims of being able to see through nonsense, are then followed by nonsensical beliefs.



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15 Aug 2025, 5:40 pm

I expect there's different levels of intelligence here, people are all at different stages in their lives, and not everyone is a smartarse.



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17 Aug 2025, 6:23 am

About as far as this goes is: some of us are less likely than average to go along with dubious groupthink, as "everybody believes that" holds less weight for us. Although you do get some autistic people who have an incredibly rigid worldview that just reproduces the particular brand of groupthink they were raised with, so there's that.


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17 Aug 2025, 9:14 am

I get my politics from groupthink.


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17 Aug 2025, 4:21 pm

So far, the term or concept of "groupthink" has been brought up about a dozen times - but I'm not so sure that people are applying it correctly. Seems like a lot of the usage falls into the aforementioned category of "nonsense".

Topics like this tend to just feel like a cope.



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17 Aug 2025, 4:57 pm

I can relate, I think. I've been told that I see through alot of people's nonsense and bs. For example, I have an uncle I rarely speak to. A couple years ago he wanted to meet up with my sibling and I after several years of not contacting us at all so we all met up at a restaurant. My uncle is kind of a jerk, the level of which has varied throughout his life. We were there for a couple hours and he spent most of it insulting me (and also sometimes my sibling) and trying to get my sibling to give him a free computer. We told my sibling's fiance about it later, quoting what was said, and she told us that he was insulting us in a way that most people wouldn't have been able to tell it was an insult but because I'm autistic I saw past that.



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17 Aug 2025, 5:30 pm

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18 Aug 2025, 11:47 am

I think I'm upto the stage of ignoring nonsense as long as it's not harming me

Life's too short and you don't get any prizes for pointing it out and who cares anyway

Blah blah blah


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18 Aug 2025, 12:02 pm

babybird wrote:
I think I'm upto the stage of ignoring nonsense as long as it's not harming me

Life's too short and you don't get any prizes for pointing it out and who cares anyway

Blah blah blah


I think I'm getting to that stage too. I often stumble across things that would have made me scream with panic a few years ago but now I just tell myself not to believe everything I read on the internet (things like "the world is going to end tomorrow", s**t like that). Although it does feed into my anxiety when people start posting articles and studies to back up their claim, but I still try to tell myself that there's so much fake news out there now that even they don't always prove anything.


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18 Aug 2025, 12:05 pm

You'd exhaust yourself with it all

And then you'd have no energy left for what does really matter


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18 Aug 2025, 1:06 pm

babybird wrote:
You'd exhaust yourself with it all

And then you'd have no energy left for what does really matter


So true.


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30 Sep 2025, 3:43 am

some stand at the doors of perception. 8)



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30 Sep 2025, 4:46 am

It takes a ton of work to point out that commonly held assumptions are wrong, even when they are obviously incorrect. Choose your battles wisely.

For instance, a common assumption is that at this time of year in Connecticut, you should stop pruning and fertilizing your roses, to get them ready for winter. What if you don't do that, and take care of them until the hard frost stop them from growing. I get more flowers! They go into winter strong and survive, while others accept that they will lose roses over winter.