The Three Tiers Of Dating Market Value

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Yes!

I get lonely for probably about 2 or 3 months a year. What is that - 90 days at the most?

There are plenty of things to keep a person and their mind off of being lonely.

Wealthy people are basically parasites in my opinion, feeding off of the labour of the poor.

But I don't like when fake ass poor people pretend what their values are. I have seen bottom-of-the-barrel working class folk figuratively urinate on poor people when they get into some money.

Humans are gross, often.

There is another side to that.  Once I earned some measure of success, people who had known me since childhood complained I had let success go to my head.  They never realized how hard it was to smile and pretend nothing was wrong while employers exploited me and coworkers took advantage of me, just so I could keep my job.  Then I moved up a little in the world.

"No, my friend ... being successful only means I no longer have to act nice to leeches and a-holes just to get by."

That's a good point. I did not think about that angle. Thank you Fnord, I did not mean to disrespect you.

I was purely talking about my experience with some bloke I used to be friends with. Treated him like a king for years & he ditched me as soon as he found a good job, telling me I cramped his style, basically.

It's sad and completely avoidable too. It's also illogical to think that others will pick them up out of the hole they sometimes create for themselves. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who intentionallykeep digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole in the assumption that the deeper they dig, the more likely someone will pity them on the size of said hole and "adopt" them. Some of the behaviour and complete avoidance of any self improvement regardless of how small seems to suggest this. Like the one woman who outright refused driving lessons even though they were free.....like what the hell?

Not content with shooting themselves in the foot once or twice, many enjoy the thrill of reloading multiple times too, often well into their 40s and 50s.

Another thing actually is sexual maturity. Don't act like a horny sex obsessed teen but also don't act like a blinkered and innocent 5 year old. Look at typical human sexuality for your age and imitate it.

Speaking of commodities and the importance of looks, Audrey Hepburn seems to play Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady.

Audrey Hepburn is all I need to hear for me to put that film on my watch list tonight despite it being a movie that's way outside my typical field of interest. Oh the wonders of looking cute and adorable. Can even make a man like me watch what might turn out to be a movie that'll send me to sleep.....who knows.

reminds me of a very powerful quote i heard last year, it changed my view or perspective on attraction, dating and relationships, its controversial no doubt, it is:

"Men have to create their value, Women have to protect their value"

Controversial or not - I would agree wholeheartedly with this quote.

Women get attacked socially by most everybody and sometimes physically but have high, intrinsic value. Men start out with nothing and often become nothing and are at risk of physical violence also, by other men. It's less common for men to be attacked socially. Though it does happen.

What sort of intrinsic value?

I am still a virgin and never had a girlfriend aged 32 so I am in bottom tier for sure.

Biological women are generally much better looking than men. They have the 'cute' effect on men which elicits the paternal instinct, for most biological men. They are the 'birth-givers'.

In a more abstract, less literal sense, they are more sociable beings than men on a whole & have better language skills than men in general. They are more resilient to disease than men in general. Biological women outperform men in academia & are generally more intelligent in many ways, commit suicide at a lesser rate, are better able to multi-task than men in general.

Men have very little value in western society today aside from their capitalist worth, good looks (which are less common in men), and resilience to both physical and mental damage. None of these attributes seem very rewarding or easy, do they?

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There are different rungs of the bottom tier ladder. The higher you go, the more of a burden it becomes, in many cases.

I think you're being a little too generous with your analogy of a project woman/man. After wading through some of this movie, Eliza Doolittles actually works to some extent and looks after her body. There are a lot of people who have no hope of ever reaching the standards of the rough, unrefined version of Eliza Doolittles yet still want a partner making 100k a year.

Perhaps ... but it was the first analogy that came to mind.

It's actually turning into a pretty good movie lol. Have you ever heard of a "Chav" before? Basically it means "Council Housed And Violent" and they're the British equivalent of trailer trash. As adults many become respectable people and move up in the world but an equal proportion seem to stay as they are. Many become the types to see state handouts as a primary career path with work only intended to supplement their benefits and obviously strategically done in such a manner as to not interfere with the benefits thresholds.

Eliza Doolittles (as opposed to Doofuckalls as mentioned above) seems like an interesting type of woman but one that there is no shortage of. Seems to have underlying intelligence and a desire to escape her situation but still needs the good old fashioned boot. Still utterly exhausting to deal with though and someone who would drive me potty.

I def fall into the bottom tier due to having many various physical & mental disabilities besides Aspergers. Being independent has never been in the cards for me & I was very lucky to get hired for the 3 federal minimum wage jobs I had. I struggled majorly to get relationships partly due to being dependent & I never done the dating thing despite having 3 girlfriends. I met them all online, the latter two were this forum. My 1st girlfriend was the best friend I had ever had at that point in my life & that's a big reason why we got in a relationship. Our actual relationship only lasted about 6 months thou.

I was single for 8 years straight after that relationship ended despite my best efforts. I posted about things online aLOT & I was called Misogynist a bit when I was expressing my frustration. The term Incel was not around back then. Oddly enough it was mostly guys who labeled me as a Misogynist. The women tended to be a lot more tolerant of me. The majority of my friends at the time were women but they did not want a relationship with me There were a bit of guys who really sympathized with my struggles but there were also a bit of guys who were hostile towards me. I was dealing with a bad depression at the time & I was misanthropic & I'm becoming misanthropic again these days due to the state of world affairs but I tend to like & respect women more than men & I'm also a male feminist. My current girlfriend likes to joke that I'm 51% woman & she's 51% man. I never conformed to the male stereotype & was sometimes thought to be gay. Getting the Misogynist label when I was frustrated didn't make sense & made me feel even more frustrated & misunderstood.