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18 Mar 2007, 8:05 pm

I wanted him banned from the get-go.


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18 Mar 2007, 8:31 pm

alex wrote:
he attacked some guy pretty severely but the post was deleted. He's also been starting threads that seem like troll bait. Obviously this isn't grounds for banning normally. Although, when you're on probation, even a minor offense gets you back in trouble. And I don't even think viciously attacking another member is all that minor.

But for someone who was originally banned for trolling, it seems sort of suspicious that he would create a major scene within a couple of days of coming back as a "changed man." I also think he may not be who he says he is. I think he purposely goes to forums and causes scenes and then apologizes. If you remember, ATOMIKA kept apologizing but then started spamming again. Now he doesn't apologize after spamming, but he did originally. There are sick people out there who try to mess with people in a support community by pretending to be a kid with asperger's.

Actually, to be precise, he was originally banned for habitual trolling AND posting pornographic images iirc. I didn't want to have to ban him again. It makes me feel horrible to ban kids with aspergers although I think he may not even be a kid or even an aspie.


Ah. Good. We have reasoning. :)


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18 Mar 2007, 8:36 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
Thought you said you liked him before and didn't want him banned? Changed your mind, lol ?

I liked him until I found out what he did that got him banned. :wink:



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18 Mar 2007, 8:56 pm

I don't know if I ever saw THE infamous post. The one's that are still there are pretty tame though. The only real problem was that they were in the haven. Moreover, he just kept going at the poor guy. I wouldn't have suggested a permanent ban for what happend; but the fact that he just came back from being banned kind of shows that he just doesn't have the control to stay here. It's a real pity, because he probably has a lot of issues that contact with the forum could help with.



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19 Mar 2007, 12:57 am

Graelwyn wrote:
janicka wrote:
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Yes, in truth, I am always on edge with anything I post as I am so fearful of this happening to me. I think this site can become a support system for many of its users, including me...and take that away, you end up with a very major meltdown, I can tell you, lol. I avoid cussing because of this fear, even though I see others cussing and staying around. With a warning you would know and be able to rectify your behaviours.



But, I would think that he'd probably have to just cross the line once and be banned without warning, since he has been banned before. I'd hope that we'd at least get a warning first if we were walking on thin ice. But, he was pretty rude to someone in the Haven, and like you were saying that's a reason for a ban by itself.



I pulled him up on it. Made him aware he was out of order with his behaviour, but I never mentioned thinking he should be banned. I imagine it took a lot to apologise publicly... I have trouble with such things. I imagine there is some other reason as well for his ban.



The thing is that we are prone to over-reacting and acting on the spur of the moment, and therefore we get banned for something we'd regret in a passive state of mind.


God yes, the number of times I have reacted badly to something due to not seeing clearly in the midst of some anger, and woken up next day thinking, 'Oh no, I wont get away with it this time'...that feeling of dread in the pit of your stomach


I stand by my original argument. If he was doing what I think he was, then I find it a bit sad how we have a great Spectrumite support site, but when someone vents out of Spectrum-induced behavior like that they get banned (again).


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20 Mar 2007, 11:30 am

alex wrote:
he attacked some guy pretty severely but the post was deleted. He's also been starting threads that seem like troll bait. Obviously this isn't grounds for banning normally. Although, when you're on probation, even a minor offense gets you back in trouble. And I don't even think viciously attacking another member is all that minor.

But for someone who was originally banned for trolling, it seems sort of suspicious that he would create a major scene within a couple of days of coming back as a "changed man." I also think he may not be who he says he is. I think he purposely goes to forums and causes scenes and then apologizes. If you remember, ATOMIKA kept apologizing but then started spamming again. Now he doesn't apologize after spamming, but he did originally. There are sick people out there who try to mess with people in a support community by pretending to be a kid with asperger's.

Actually, to be precise, he was originally banned for habitual trolling AND posting pornographic images iirc. I didn't want to have to ban him again. It makes me feel horrible to ban kids with aspergers although I think he may not even be a kid or even an aspie.


He denies all of this and wants you to know that you are a fool.


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20 Mar 2007, 11:35 am

Please don't insult Alex or any other WP members who feel this ban was justified.



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20 Mar 2007, 11:51 am

Khazidhea is not a troll. He is a good person. He sometimes gets angry and says things he doesn't mean, but he is not evil. He is appropriate, yiffy, and FTW.


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20 Mar 2007, 12:00 pm

OWA - I agree with you about your assessment of him, but I do not think it is fair to criticize Alex for his decision. He'd been warned repeatedly and continued to violate WP rules.

Anyway, it's over and I don't think that this discussion needs to continue.