Liberals: Should Muslims bomb Israel?

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This is a question to all those who claim to despise war and violence in all its forms, and who also believe Israel has no right to exist in the Middle East -- those who believe the land rightfully belongs to the Palestinians:

If the Jews do not evacuate Israel, do the Palestinians have the right to bomb them, to use violent terrorism against peaceful Israeli Jewish citizens (men, women, children)?

If so, then please type out how you reconcile that belief with your belief that war and violence are wrong in all its forms.
There seems to be a double standard among liberals which goes: the Palestinians can violently attack Israeli men, women, children, but Israel shouldn't fight back to stop these attacks. Please attempt to explain that position, those of you who hold it. Maybe your belief should be modified to: "Violence is never the answer except when the Palestinians bomb Israeli civilians."

No, but Israel should fight back against just the actual terrorists - not every single Palestinian anywhere nearby.

Israel and Palestine are both badly at fault. Some anti-Israeli/pro-Palestinian partisans might point out that Israel has killed more Palestinians than Palestine has killed Israelis, but I think we all know that is only because the Palestinians suck at war. If they could, they would have killed every Israeli man, woman, and child ages ago. Israel has the capability to do this to Palestine and yet has refrained.

Ragtime I live in the most liberal corner of the country, and my peer group is the most liberal segment of that population, and I have never in my life heard of anyone who takes that position. Where do you get this crap?

Israel can do anything they like, they just should not do things simply because they expect the U.S. to hold their hand when the other countries in the region don't like it.

Unfortunately though, the U.S. will hold their hand, and that will on some level always piss me off. But at the same time, while I am not in the school that thinks that "all war and violence are absolutely wrong at all times and under all circumstances", I don't think that war is awesome. And I understand that American influence, while it enables Israel to do as they please without bearing any responsibility for their actions, also probably serves to prevent a large-scale bloodbath in the region.

At the same time though, I wonder exactly what your position is on all this. Do you believe that Palestine, including the innocent 99% of its population, should be bombed off the face of the earth because they fired some shells into Israel? I doubt that you do, but that is the extreme flip side of what you seem to think the predominant liberal angle is. Palestine, like Israel, is free to do as they please. However, the way the world works is that when you kill innocent people, people get pissed off, and generally you are held accountable for it.

As it stands, Israel has a free pass, and Palestine does not. Unfair as that may be, that is the state of affairs, and both sides can make their decisions accordingly. But being that that is the case, it is ridiculous to me when people b***h about what a raw deal Israel is getting on the whole thing.

Easy, i have no love for Israel, but if they get terminated by the extremists, i won't shed much of a tear for 'em, they had it coming, repeating the mistakes of the past. -.- Yet they still act as if they were in conquered land. -.-

And Matt, the issue here is that you can't discern who wants to fight Israel from your average commoner, that's one of the tactics used by terrorism, they don't identify themselves as fighters (in public), so anyone can be a potential suspect, which in itself adds to the fear factor due to paranoia.

Israel has long spent their sympathy capital with me -.- They've got much to answer for, and i honestly wonder what would happen if US leadership stopped apologizing for them and told them to make amends instead. <.<

I don't really consider myself a liberal, but I do hold some liberal views, so I'll add my piece.

I think both sides should stop being religious, stop caring about their "holy land", and learn to be human beings that get along with one another.

All I can say is, as much as I hate seeing the destruction and death that goes on there, I don't really pay much attention to the conflict now. There's no point. No side has clean hands in this. Neither side is a collective hive mind, either. All it takes is a few extremists to ruin any agreement the majority may want. The conflict will just keep going until someone nukes the other. I think the current situation is preferable to a nuclear explosion, so the best that can be done is trying to minimize casualties.

I'm not a fan of any of the governments involved in this, but I'm not going to complain if an Israeli airstrike is what it takes to prevent nuclear weapons being built. Ideally, everyone would just back the hell away from it all. But human nature means that's never going to happen.

Oh and Ragtime, blanket statements like that are completely stupid. If I cared enough about people who consider themselves conservatives, I'd dig up a few generalisations about you that would most likely be incorrect. Ann Coulter should probably stop spewing rubbish and seek treatment for her PMS.

It becomes irrelevant how many voted for whom, once it goes past the tipping point. They'll get bombed, killed and treated all the same. Same for any Jews. It doesn't matter where they're from, who they are etc. They're Jewish, and they're fair game. It's stupid logic, but there it is. Of course, with some people, if you disagree with anything Israel does, you're being anti-semitic. It's all stupid.