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18 Aug 2009, 12:43 am

I moved from Oregon to Colorado within the last month, the tables have really turned. I live with this roomate who doesn't pay rent, complains about our ability to provide food for her (we're so poor we live off of ramen), and brings random guys to the house. On top of that, she doesn't even clean the place.

I made the mistake of thinking she could get a job and contribute to the living situation. Now I feel like a tool. Is this the average american? I've been around army bases so long that I've lost track of what people are like. I'd really like to think there's people who have a basic sense of right and wrong.

If there's a problem with americans, it's that Maslow's hierarchy of human needs isn't referenced enough. There is no basic need to bs all day and complain when you don't have what you want. It doesn't sound patriotic, but I see a lot of people who dream of having things they never work for, I never realized how bad it was until I had to live with one of them.



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18 Aug 2009, 1:41 am

can you kick her out? you should replace her with a more responsible roommate



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18 Aug 2009, 2:50 am

MDD123 wrote:
I'd really like to think there's people who have a basic sense of right and wrong.

There still are. They can be work to find, though.

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If there's a problem with americans, it's that Maslow's hierarchy of human needs isn't referenced enough.

Or it is, and dismissed.

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There is no basic need to bs all day and complain when you don't have what you want.

Guess it depends on your point of view. My ex-sister-in-law and current daughter-in-law seem to see it as a basic need.

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It doesn't sound patriotic, but I see a lot of people who dream of having things they never work for, I never realized how bad it was until I had to live with one of them.

Welcome to the United States of Entitlement.


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18 Aug 2009, 6:44 am

It's not my place, so I can't kick her out as soon as I'd like. The guy in charge is being fair and waiting until the end of the month.

On the bright side, she points out all the human pitfalls for me and makes just about everyone else look good by comparison. There's just this strange mentality over here and she's definately part of it. Does anyone else live in colorado springs?



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18 Aug 2009, 7:22 am

I think there are people like that but it's not indicative of Americans or any other group. How many other Americans do you know who are exactly like that? Talk about painting with a wide brush. Oh and btw-I am a Southerner. I do not screw my cousin, I have more than 3 teeth, I am not a bible thumping fundamentalist, I am very socially liberal, my ancestors were in the Civil War but I would rather die than hang up a Confederate Flag, I'm not secretly plotting to "rise again", I despise racism and I don't see ignorance as something to be proud of. Whew. Sorry, that's been building. I've noticed some people think nothing of making disparaging remarks about Southerners ( particularly " hillbillies") that they wouldn't stoop to saying about people from other geographical regions. The most comical one is the one about how Southerners are polite but only so they can stab you in the back more effectively. :roll:

people are people and the only safe way to make a judgment is to take one person at a time and get to know them.

Sorry MDD123- you just pushed a button-that rant wasn't directed at you specifically.



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18 Aug 2009, 11:15 am

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I am a Southerner.

Hear what you're saying.
Half of my raising was in Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia.
The first half was in the other southern corner - the one with less trees and higher mountains.

You did leave out, however, trailer parks with cars up on blocks in the front yard and a brand new bass boat in the driveway.


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18 Aug 2009, 2:08 pm

I can understand that, I've been stereotyped for being from texas (by a californian no less), I can't say it bothered me though. The real issue here is that I just got done with 6 years of the army, I can't find a job yet, I go into all kinds of blind rages where I destroy the inside of my car and my cell phone for petty reasons, and girls here either pass me up, or try to use me , not to mention I'm out of meds and the VA isn't exactly responsive. Why don't you just get it out there, tell me I'm a hypocrite, for calling attention to other people's problems when I'm a case myself. I can tell you that you're acting pretty sensitive and we can both stop pretending that we aren't stepping on eachother's toes. Whatever you do don't get mad and then apologize, some a-hole will just argue back even harder.



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18 Aug 2009, 3:10 pm

I don't know you well enough to call you a hypocrite. 8O Like I said, you just pushed a button and the rant wasn't directed specifically at you. It had been building. :twisted: Another thing that gets me is any phrase that begins with " You Americans"- Let's face it, we are all imperfect human beings no matter where we are from. I didn't want to attack you-I'm sorry that it came off that way. :(



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18 Aug 2009, 6:03 pm

It's ok, you helped me blow off some steam, I feel a lot better now. I have the same feeling though, some foreigner likes to take an easy shot at Americans and a bunch of Americans do backflips to agree (and sound world concious), I just roll my eyes, and that's where I start being a hippocrite.



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18 Aug 2009, 6:16 pm

Sometimes the "You Americans" comments are funny. I was once working as a caretaker for a European doctor's 5 year old daughter and I would be at the house early in the morning. I expressed surprise when he put instant coffee in a dinner glass and poured hot water from the tap into it. "Oh, you Americans..." he said. Coffee is sacred-dammit! :)



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18 Aug 2009, 6:59 pm

I think the problem is just an uncopable living situation. It seems no matter how hard we try, it's the hellish thing in the world for people with Asperger's to live with other people...because either they don't clean enough or they complain that we're not cleaning enough. It's difficult to live in an apartment when the roommate brings a whole bunch of strangers over. That's why I try to get live alone whenever possible.



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18 Aug 2009, 7:03 pm

^ true and the older you get your sense of territory gets stronger.



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19 Aug 2009, 4:43 am

I had a roommate like this a couple years back. It's not a norm or anything like that in America. There's just a handful of leeches that you may or may not run into during the whole roommate's thing. One thing I suggest if you don't already have them is a lock for your room's door. I had excellent roommates before that one and it never even occurred to me to put a lock on my door. Naturally the lesson was learned with several processions being the cost.



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19 Aug 2009, 8:23 am

8 years ago, my sociology teacher told me not to make generalizations like this lol. She's on a vacation from us right now (her words), so the place is pretty clean and my roomate gets to bring his dates over, all is well now.