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dreadzone_king
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02 Feb 2010, 4:59 am

just joined and wondering if the english are welcome here if so hi if not bye

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02 Feb 2010, 5:04 am

Welcome to WrongPlanet!

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02 Feb 2010, 5:05 am

Welcome to WrongPlanet, where people of all nationalities are welcome.

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02 Feb 2010, 5:27 am

well...

Around October 2008, only just post-dx and still reading... or not... as I had just read what I immediately recognized as the view on autism parallel and complementary to mine, developed on the basis of my critical (deconstructivist-like) reading... first here on WP, directly upon self-dx and waiting to be confirmed; then post getting into to 'real' stuff (the professional debate).

As the writer of this book on autism was Dutch, and even lived in the place where I had lived right up to the moon I got myself evicted... not knowing about autism, asperger's other than a feeling of akinship with people who would NOT be diagnozed maybe even now - let alone then

Anyway, I have a special... call it 'linguistic-sensorial' gift which gets me quite close to savantism, were it not for a number of other problems. And I have worked as a translator and 'ergonomical' text-improvement and 'styling'.
As I felt her book deserved better writing (actually BECAUSE it was pretty well written already), and I was looking for a psychotherapist anyway, I felt fate had decided and had succeeded in making an appointment.

Autism was hardly directly discussed. We were two professional textworkers, discussing the correct or improved usage of commas, for instance. I had also correctly sensed she was not originally Dutch, albeit brought up in Holland. There is a difference. Natural bilingualism versus Acquired bilingualism... to name but one aspect. (E.g. the linguistic awareness of anyone brought up in Ireland, in Irish & English, makes for a language experience no brit could ever truly appreciate.)(Not for nothing did Joyce write Joyce.)

Anyway, we discussed how computing had done wonders for the recognition of autism, by the increased partaking of auties and aspies themselves... "And English..." I volunteered. And she just shot awake and alert and "O yes, isn't English a really autistic[ally suited] language..."

Straight from the Cloggy Frog's mouth:
Martine Delfos believes English (UK) is an autistic language.

So i would say.... hell no, no mad dogs and englishmen here, sorry....

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02 Feb 2010, 9:58 am

oblio if you are saying that brits dont get autisum you are wrong i have been digagnosed with it since i was 7 years old

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02 Feb 2010, 11:39 am

more than welcome, china!

strangely meanwhile, to me autism is IPS : Ironical Personality Structure,
whereas it would seem that 'we' don't get irony [or do we]

now if anything, English as a language (even syntactically) 'is' ironical,
at least allows for more linguistic irony than any other language i know;

next, considering 'banter' as a basic trait of the (self-mocking) typically
'English' (more so even that 'British') culture,
i do think 'autistic (self-)awareness' - as seen a LOT of here on WP -

[consider the avatars, the signature lines, the nick names &al.]
{there is almost always that (vague) sense of flawed genius)}

[[which by the way is exactly why so many of us are misdiagnozed
as adhd-ish schizotypal and/or narcisistic
(rather than add-ish schizoid; a-typical borderline, or even psychotic)

our 'realistic', 'objective' awareness of ourselves, our ironical coping with all that,
the acceptance and frustration simultaneous...
always these contradictions and paradoxes...

it all has remarkable similarities with the way english culture works

Finally - for those who now have decided oblio must be off his whatever -
he actually seem s to proclaim autism a funny condition...

well... maybe not funny..., often luckily not even 'punny'
however, 'phunny' comes to mind...

but for those: please refer to any decent definition of IRONY,
and realize when irony (distance) is always -

that in fact defines 'aloneness' - that is the paradoxical essence of
the tragic irony of irony & that too, ever since Kanner - even when social:
'aloneness' is the most essential word of autism

R&R ladies & gentle squires... Rhyme & Reason

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02 Feb 2010, 3:35 pm

Hello dreadzone_king, welcome, enjoy your stay on the Wrong Planet!

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