Whats wrong with Suicide?

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I was placed in the psych ward briefly 2.5 years ago due to my overexaggerating thoughts of suicide. I didnt know how to protect myself and I answered questions very literally. Since then I had to be taught what suicide meant to society. I didnt think it was that big of a deal. And now Im still like...why is suicide that bad? Its a way to escape the pains of life permently, whats so wrong about that? Maybe its because I dont hold life to a high standard either. I've gotten the idea from all these suicide sites that if your thinking of suicide your not thinking straight. Thats not the case for me. Whenever I get sad...I tend to think, why do I have to be here? I kinda wish I was never born. Life is a b***h. The main reason why Im still here is cause physical pain scares me and so many people who attempt suicide end up living anyways(sucks doesnt it?/or not?) For me its all or nothing. If I have to live, Id rather be a normal functioning member of society, if Im not that then Id like to die. The in between is the worse. I dont want to be some low functioning(treated like a 2nd class citizen) member of society. I never ever ever want to go back to the psych ward again! To sum it up(for me) suicide attempt=unsucessful=psych ward.

Hmm... why does society take such a dim view of suicide...

Well, the finality of it all is jarring. And people you leave behind are bereft. Actually I don't know why. Maybe because it's so tragic that the person felt it was so hopeless they had to KILL themselves that society does whatever it can to discourage that.

Here is where you are wrong. To get the benefit of an "escape" you must be able to perceive it. If you are dead, you cannot perceive.

You cannot think "Gee, I'm glad that's over. I feel so free now."

You also need to consider the impact of killing yourself might have on those around you. We do not always live for ourselves.

Last, you need to consider the possibility that those who kill themselves potentially cheat themselves out of an experience in life that makes all the crap in life totally worth it.

There is a chance the suicide attempt may not be successful, and the person could be paralyzed or brain dead but still alive.

If the person succeeded, than a lot of people would be left behind, and some of those people could follow, and commit suicide, as well.

I'm sorry you ended up in a psych ward. I used to work in one and it isn't the proper place for aspies. Some of the nurses I worked with had also been patients.

I worked with some suicidal people and I listened to their stories. Some of them just seemed like temporary problems while others I had to restrain myself to keep from loaning them my gun.

Relationship breakups were a common thread in the temporary category. One guy got some bad drugs and went streaking through a crowded mall.

As far as aspergers, it is a permanent condition with temporary symptoms. Its just a learning disability. Its harder to learn social things, but it can be done - it just takes longer. Girl aspies seem to have an easier time adjusting because even NT girls are pretty strange and aspie girls just fit right in.

Schizophrenics are ones that I really wished it was legal for me to "help". They get a lot of bad press, but in reality, they are more harmful to themselves than anyone else. Some hear voices that compel them to hurt themselves. When I say compel, I mean like the TV remote compels the TV to change channels. They can't refuse the voice. There are anti-schizo drugs, but the side effects are so bad its no wonder why these people frequently fall off them and not every schizo is treatable with drugs. Hence, some of them are so messed up that I wouldn't blame them if they chose suicide.

You are free in the sense that, technically, you are no longer feeling pain, since you're dead. Does it matter to a suicidal person that they can't perceive the lack of pain? I don't think so, as long as the troubles are "gone".

You need to avoid those psyche wards at all costs! Lie like a rug if necessary to anyone and everyone, but never allow yourself to be put into one of those places where you are force fed drugs that mess up your brain and thinking! I know. Been there and done that. My hatred for those places and their so-called medical practices is unbelievably huge! Just remember that if you do attempt suicide and fail you'll probably end up in one of these places and be drugged up for a very long time. This is not good. These people only treat symptoms, not the causes of problems.

As for suicide in general, I think that it is an individual choice that we should be free to make. However, ... As Zorba the Greek once said, "Life is trouble, only death is not. To be alive is to undo your belt and look for trouble!" Well maybe. But what if there is reincarnation? What if you end up as an earth bound spirit, or ghost forever? Hmmm, that's somethng to think about isn't it? Too, if you accept reincarnation, then maybe you chose this life as a learning experience and if you prematurely exit it via suicide, then you might just have to do this all over again. Bummers, huh? OK, so what if you decide to live? Try to find someone, or someplace (e.g. WP) that can help you to learn how to live in this NT world. Yes, a lot can be learned, that will make things a LOT easier for you. The trick is to find that kind of help. Ask some of the folks here on WP, that's why we are here isn't it?

Good luck and please think carefully before you take any non-reversible actions. There might be a lot of consequences that you hadn't thought of.

Psych wards are no fun, but suicide is permanent. You seem nice, and you are pretty. Maybe you need a change of scenery to find people you can have more fun with.

That would suck.

Well suicidal people are hardly ever logical. If they were,they would realize, to get the benefit of their troubles being gone, they must be around to perceive that their troubles are gone.

Suicidal people are generally completely illogical though, usually impulsive.

Yeah especially cause everybody would know the person made a conscious choice to do it to them self. So a lot of people wouldn't feel sorry for them.

I think suicide is great. But if I do it idk if Im going to hell or Heaven so I am not going to take the chance. 60 more years of hell is better than an eternity of hell.

It is a very selfish thing to do. You will cause a ton of grief on your loved ones. And it is a very final step to take for yourself if you are having a miserable life.

yea wellm it shouldnt matter to the person who does it because they'll be dead. im just worried about the after life thing, that hads been the only thing that has kept me from doing it. and Im not going to do it.

I tend to be more of the Buddhist belief variety, if you kill yourself you become a little mouse in your next few lives and have to endure a cat or owl killing and eating you. But the thing that scares me the most isn't being that mouse, but being some lesser human, like a slum kid in Africa or something. In this view, you really don't end the pain, you just get more pain to endure. There are plenty of things worse than being an aspie.

Honestly, society heaps so much responsibility on teens that I'm surprised that teens aren't dropping like flies from their own hand all over the place. High school is absolutely cruel, teachers as well as kids, and that and college is said to determine the course of your life for the rest of your life. Who really knows what they want to be for the rest of their lives at 16? There are a few who are blessed with a calling, but they're not the ones I'm worried about.

Our society is one great sea of corruption and cronyism, and if you're on the butt end and have some exalted banker deciding that you WILL die for being born into the wrong family, it does suck. Most people can cocoon themselves in lies, but people like me can't. I frequently ask myself why I endure it, and I do because I believe that THEY have the power to determine your next life as well as this one, and if you kill yourself you get b*tchslapped and made to endure something worse.