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12 Nov 2010, 2:29 am

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Local dentist Dr. Harry Hoediono, the president-elect of the Ontario Dental Association, was saddened by the result and predicted an increase in cavity rates for Waterloo.

"The Ontario Dental Association is disappointed that the residents of Waterloo have voted no to fluoridating their municipal water," he said in a statement. "While we respect their decision, we want to remind citizens of the overwhelming benefits of water fluoridation.

"Fluoride is one of the best preventive measures we have against dental decay. It strengthens the tooth enamel and helps reverse the infectious process of decay. Dental decay is one of the leading causes of absences from school and if left untreated can lead to a host of other illnesses.

"Water fluoridation benefits all populations - especially the elderly and infirm - who might not have the manual dexterity to effectively apply fluoridated toothpastes."

"Over 90 international and national health organizations support the public health benefits of water fluoridation. We believe that water fluoridation, in the right amount, is safe, effective and good for your health."


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12 Nov 2010, 3:04 am

Waterloo may be on to something. Don't you see what's going on here? Fluoridation is all a Commie plot! They're trying to introduce foreign substances into our precious bodily fluids, and deplete our essence!



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12 Nov 2010, 3:19 am

I don't understand why it's in there in the first place. Dental hygiene is a personal issue. I know in places like Canada where they have socialized medicine they can say it saves money in the long run for the tax payer but they do it in the US too. Maybe it does help maybe it doesn't but they should be experimenting "neat tricks" on the populace. Just keep the water safe to drink, that's all they should be doing.



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12 Nov 2010, 4:12 am

I see what you did there Chevand...

Jacoby wrote:
I don't understand why it's in there in the first place. Dental hygiene is a personal issue. I know in places like Canada where they have socialized medicine they can say it saves money in the long run for the tax payer but they do it in the US too. Maybe it does help maybe it doesn't but they should be experimenting "neat tricks" on the populace. Just keep the water safe to drink, that's all they should be doing.

"Experimenting?" Water flouridation is hardly experimental.


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12 Nov 2010, 5:59 am

That's not the point. I don't want the government doing things "for my own good" without my consent or even knowledge of especially in the drinking water. The water is contaminated enough from pollutants, they don't need to be pumping any more into it. I'm sure it costs some money do it too and anything more than 0 is too much.(according to wikipedia it's an average of 94 cents per person per year so that would be near 3 billion over 10 years in the US) People can get sufficient amounts of fluoride elsewhere if they please.(such as toothpaste, something you don't have to swallow)



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12 Nov 2010, 7:41 am

Orwell wrote:
I see what you did there Chevand...

Jacoby wrote:
I don't understand why it's in there in the first place. Dental hygiene is a personal issue. I know in places like Canada where they have socialized medicine they can say it saves money in the long run for the tax payer but they do it in the US too. Maybe it does help maybe it doesn't but they should be experimenting "neat tricks" on the populace. Just keep the water safe to drink, that's all they should be doing.

"Experimenting?" Water flouridation is hardly experimental.


But it is intrusive. Since tooth decay is NOT a communicable disease the government had no business placing a treatment for it into a -public- water supply. There are people who drink the water who consider such an intrusion an abomination. I can understand why we purify water to prevent typhoid, but tooth decay is (1) not contagious and (2) can be handled by using topical fluride treatment and fluride pills or rinse. Those who wish such treatment can apply it themselves.

The principle upon which fluridation of the public water supply is based is dangerous. It justifies intrusion into private matters and conditions which are in and of themselves not harmful to the health of the public.

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12 Nov 2010, 8:03 am

ruveyn wrote:
Orwell wrote:
I see what you did there Chevand...

Jacoby wrote:
I don't understand why it's in there in the first place. Dental hygiene is a personal issue. I know in places like Canada where they have socialized medicine they can say it saves money in the long run for the tax payer but they do it in the US too. Maybe it does help maybe it doesn't but they should be experimenting "neat tricks" on the populace. Just keep the water safe to drink, that's all they should be doing.

"Experimenting?" Water flouridation is hardly experimental.


But it is intrusive. Since tooth decay is NOT a communicable disease the government had no business placing a treatment for it into a -public- water supply. There are people who drink the water who consider such an intrusion an abomination. I can understand why we purify water to prevent typhoid, but tooth decay is (1) not contagious and (2) can be handled by using topical fluride treatment and fluride pills or rinse. Those who wish such treatment can apply it themselves.

The principle upon which fluridation of the public water supply is based is dangerous. It justifies intrusion into private matters and conditions which are in and of themselves not harmful to the health of the public.

ruveyn


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12 Nov 2010, 9:40 am

Orwell wrote:
"Experimenting?" Water flouridation is hardly experimental.

It would be interesting to see tooth decay rates compared to water fluoridation.

The truth is, more and more people are drinking bottled water instead of tap water these days, anyway.



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12 Nov 2010, 9:51 am

Here where we happen to live, the city just had some kind of problem and they increased chlorine to the point of quite noticeable as a solution. Overall, however, we have just installed a filtering system to remove the chlorine, fluoride and whatever else we do *not* need to drink in order to survive.


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12 Nov 2010, 10:15 am

leejosepho wrote:
Here where we happen to live, the city just had some kind of problem and they increased chlorine to the point of quite noticeable as a solution. Overall, however, we have just installed a filtering system to remove the chlorine, fluoride and whatever else we do *not* need to drink in order to survive.


Some people sleep well with their teeth in a waterglass besides their bed. I prefer to retain the originals.



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12 Nov 2010, 10:17 am

Sand wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
Here where we happen to live, the city just had some kind of problem and they increased chlorine to the point of quite noticeable as a solution. Overall, however, we have just installed a filtering system to remove the chlorine, fluoride and whatever else we do *not* need to drink in order to survive.


Some people sleep well with their teeth in a waterglass besides their bed. I prefer to retain the originals.


Frequent brushing, flossing and avoiding too much sugar will do that just fine.

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12 Nov 2010, 10:30 am

Glad this hasn't gone the way of talking mind control yet.


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12 Nov 2010, 10:42 am

skafather84 wrote:
Glad this hasn't gone the way of talking mind control yet.

Like this?

Chevand wrote:
Waterloo may be on to something. Don't you see what's going on here? Fluoridation is all a Commie plot! They're trying to introduce foreign substances into our precious bodily fluids, and deplete our essence!


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12 Nov 2010, 10:45 am

leejosepho wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Glad this hasn't gone the way of talking mind control yet.

Like this?

Chevand wrote:
Waterloo may be on to something. Don't you see what's going on here? Fluoridation is all a Commie plot! They're trying to introduce foreign substances into our precious bodily fluids, and deplete our essence!


I meant in earnest. Not a sarcastic response.


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12 Nov 2010, 10:47 am

my city stopped with the fluoridation program about 20 years ago. i believe it was because the fluoride was suspected to cause long-term negative health effects. so maybe the governments are overstepping their influence by removing it from the water... i.e. i want my dang fluoride even if it kills me! how dare the government consider my health!


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12 Nov 2010, 11:12 am

hyperlexian wrote:
my city stopped with the fluoridation program about 20 years ago. i believe it was because the fluoride was suspected to cause long-term negative health effects. so maybe the governments are overstepping their influence by removing it from the water... i.e. i want my dang fluoride even if it kills me! how dare the government consider my health!


And it's a government action depriving you of your fluoride.