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03 Dec 2010, 5:07 pm

I recently seen in a couple posts here, and heard comments from my grandfather, about how liberals are destroying the country.

With that said, what then is the conservative of conservative ideal world? If there were no liberal ideas allowed to exist, what would you have left? Just curious.

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03 Dec 2010, 5:18 pm

I'm going to say most liberals are simply misguided not evil. I even imagine they think they are doing the right thing. I just hope they wake up and smell the coffee before things get much worse.

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03 Dec 2010, 5:59 pm

I was looking for specifics as to how people believe liberals are doing things so badly, and what the conservative "right" way is.

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03 Dec 2010, 7:48 pm

I am fine with liberal viewpoints being stated in a free society. Conservatives have every right to respond though without being unfettered by PC or worrying about being spuriously labled a bigot or something.

Liberals seem to have a problem with free speech coming from Conservatives, especially when it comes to the spectrum of social issues. I would like to see Conservatives be able to state their positions clearly and definitely without worrying about PC infractions, being decried as offensive, labled racist, sexist, or getting banned from an internet forum, etc..........

I would also like to see more conservative representation in higher education, in fields like History, Philosophy, sociology, etc. I'd like to reopen the study of Eugenics as well. I would also like to return the West to the pre-1948 demographics(roughly) + a severe clampdown on 3rd world immigration. I'd like to end any and all reverse discrimination against whites and white males, and return to Caucasian predominance.

I have many more changes I would love to see. My closest ideal might be Germany 1870-1914.

Still, I have no problem at all with unfettered liberal parties existing. Liberals have every right to be as they are, blah blah blah............

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03 Dec 2010, 7:54 pm

Read Simpson and Sampson.

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03 Dec 2010, 8:13 pm

why does liberal = communist left wing nutter? thats the impression i get.

it is said that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives...

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03 Dec 2010, 9:17 pm

Liberals don't want to destroy the world, they want to save the world, but they are so lacking in wisdom that the will destroy the world in their effort to save the world.

The main danger from liberals is that they believe in the perfectibility of Mankind. That is what makes them dangerous.

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03 Dec 2010, 9:40 pm

Conservatives believe free, rational individuals will choose to live the conservative lifestyle and be happy with it. The conservative lifestyle revolves around being a serious and industrious, loyal employee, a member in good standing of a local church, a family man or devoted mother, and a champion of traditional values in the community. Conservatives don't put much emphasis on art, science, philosophy, and an intellectually rigorous study of the humanities (the "liberal" arts, after all) because they may challenge their worldview. They are suspicious of anyone who doesn't fit this narrow, constraining mold.

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03 Dec 2010, 9:43 pm

"it is said that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives..."

And it was said that the Nazis were Aryan Übermenschen.

They wanted to save the world too.

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03 Dec 2010, 9:47 pm

As it's probably been said... country =/= world, unless you consider the USA or whichever country you are from as the world... <.<

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04 Dec 2010, 12:03 am

russel wrote:

I'd like to reopen the study of Eugenics as well. I would also like to return the West to the pre-1948 demographics(roughly) + a severe clampdown on 3rd world immigration. I'd like to end any and all reverse discrimination against whites and white males, and return to Caucasian predominance.

You state that there should be a "dominating" race and that we should come back on idea of eugenism, concepts made by peoples too irrationnaly dogmatised by their imperial culture to have ever really understood Darwin, and you're suprised that peoples sharing your ideas are qualified as racists?!
Boy... :roll:

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04 Dec 2010, 12:52 am

ruveyn wrote:

Strawman. Actually most progressives don't believe in the perfectibility of mankind. They believe in the betterment of mankind. I think history bears out that progress is in fact possible.

Unless you're one of those who people who romanticized and long for the 19th century "good old days" of the industrial revolution, when life was shorter, more brutish, and less just for most. I suppose people from that age had better character. The smell of coal dust choked the air and the people knew their place. They feared authority and kept their heads to the grindstone at all times. This is the conservative spirit!

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04 Dec 2010, 1:11 am

russell wrote:

Why does it seem we keep getting a new one of these guys lately?

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04 Dec 2010, 1:53 am

ikorack wrote:

russell wrote:

Why does it seem we keep getting a new one of these guys lately?

I'm assuming that Russell is a satirist, at least based on some of his other posts.

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04 Dec 2010, 1:55 am

Orwell wrote:

I'm assuming that Russell is a satirist, at least based on some of his other posts.

Honestly, with many far-rightists it doesn't matter whether they're intentionally satrical or not, they all end up disintegrating into self-parody by the end.

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04 Dec 2010, 1:56 am

Orwell wrote:

ikorack wrote:

russell wrote:

Why does it seem we keep getting a new one of these guys lately?

I'm assuming that Russell is a satirist, at least based on some of his other posts.

Thats what i was referring to.

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