THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN ASPERGER AND AUTISM TELL ME ALL PLX

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zokor001
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17 Jun 2011, 2:32 am

and tell me what medecines you take for calming down your autism or asperger
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17 Jun 2011, 4:26 am

There's no difference. Asperger's is a kind of autism.

If you're talking about the difference between Asperger's and classic autism, then people with classic autism have either developmental delay, speech delay, problems with having conversations, or lack of imitative play. However, the two kinds of autism are so much alike that in adulthood it is usually difficult or even impossible to tell who was diagnosed with what. As far as I know, they will merge Asperger's and classic autism into a general "autism spectrum disorder" category in the next edition of the diagnostic manual, which I think is long overdue because there simply isn't a clear distinction between the two subgroups. Sure, you could point to somebody at the extreme end and say "that person can definitely be diagnosed classic autism but not Asperger", but the majority of cases are ambiguous, somewhere in the middle, and PDD-NOS (the "miscellaneous" category) is the biggest category of autism.

There's no medication for autism because autism is part of the way your brain is built, not a matter of brain chemistry, so medication can't treat it. Many of us take medication for depression, anxiety disorders, or ADHD, though.


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17 Jun 2011, 5:54 am

what about mental retardation



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17 Jun 2011, 7:31 am

zokor001 wrote:
what about mental retardation


If you think you might have it, then perhaps it would be a good idea to see a professional.


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17 Jun 2011, 7:36 am

I think the only diffrence between autism and AS is a speech delay. I had a speech delay myself so I guess I wouldn't be considered AS. I don't know and personally don't care anymore.



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17 Jun 2011, 7:39 am

Mental Retardation is different from autism. Why? Do you think that I have it?


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17 Jun 2011, 10:43 am

zokor001 wrote:
and tell me what medecines you take for calming down your autism or asperger
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aspergers syndrome is not a state of anxiety so I don't take meds for it.

IMO the difference between AS and "full-blown" autism is the level of functioning - some would say intelligence. I think that's all zokor001 means when he says mental retardation. It's a dodgy phrase that often causes offense.



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17 Jun 2011, 10:51 am

MagicMeerkat wrote:
I think the only diffrence between autism and AS is a speech delay. I had a speech delay myself so I guess I wouldn't be considered AS. I don't know and personally don't care anymore.


The differences are:

Asperger's Syndrome mandates no speech delay.
Autism does not mandate a speech delay, but a speech delay is one possible criterion toward diagnosis.

Asperger's Syndrome mandates no delays in self-help or adaptive skills. Most people diagnosed with AS have delays with these anyway. Asperger's Syndrome also mandates no developmental delay.
Autism allows for self-help and adaptive skill delays. It also allows for developmental delays.



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17 Jun 2011, 11:23 am

I agree with verdandi, but it's so ambiguous that making them seperate diagnosis is pointless, they end up looking indenticle.


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17 Jun 2011, 11:42 am

Yeah, the difference there is arbitrary.

That's not to say someone who has a speech delay will be like someone who does not, but there's so many other variables as well: If you've seen one autistic person, you've seen one autistic person.



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17 Jun 2011, 12:01 pm

im not mentally ret*d for sure it dosent take me 10minutes to do an action.

i hovever feel like my thinking is paralzyed dunno if that is mentally retarditon i mean my eyes are normal im not thinking im fully aware what im writing so ...

they said i had asperger syndrome

its getting cold i mean every kid plays 24/7.... thats not a special intrest . im sure they have right in the social connection and bad movement and they got alot of eye contact problem. and i talk in verb

its autisam or for sure or mental retardation
they gave me asperger syndrome

do autism fail school i did fail so i think its asperger



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17 Jun 2011, 4:30 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
zokor001 wrote:
and tell me what medecines you take for calming down your autism or asperger
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aspergers syndrome is not a state of anxiety so I don't take meds for it.

IMO the difference between AS and "full-blown" autism is the level of functioning - some would say intelligence. I think that's all zokor001 means when he says mental retardation. It's a dodgy phrase that often causes offense.
...except that there's no intelligence requirement for classic autism. You could have the highest IQ in the world and still be diagnosed with classic autism.

The difference, diagnostically, is that classic autism requires one of the following: Speech delay, odd speech, problems with conversations, or lack of imitative pretend play. So, you can have totally normal speech and a genius IQ test result and still be diagnosed with classic autism.

If they diagnosed you with Asperger's, and you've had an IQ test, then your results were probably in the average range or higher, and that means they ruled out MR; but that doesn't mean that classic autism mightn't be a better label. To be honest, though, the two are really functionally equivalent, so if I were you I wouldn't worry about which diagnosis specifically you had, just so long as you could get whatever supports you needed at school and work. For example, I get a private room and extra time to take tests in when I'm at school, because I'm easily distracted by sensory overload and take longer than most people to do things.


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17 Jun 2011, 8:26 pm

I definately agree that Autism is a "spectrum" disorder. Aspergers and HFA and PDD-NOS and Autistic Disorder are all linked. The main difference does seem to be whether or not there is speech delay or not. There have been studies that speculated about IQ involvement, too, but I mainly stay with speech delay or not....


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17 Jun 2011, 9:26 pm

JWS wrote:
I definately agree that Autism is a "spectrum" disorder. Aspergers and HFA and PDD-NOS and Autistic Disorder are all linked. The main difference does seem to be whether or not there is speech delay or not. There have been studies that speculated about IQ involvement, too, but I mainly stay with speech delay or not....


Speech delay is not required for a diagnosis of autism or PDD-NOS. It is simply contrary to a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome.

HFA is not a diagnosis separate from AS or Autistic Disorder, but a description.



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17 Jun 2011, 9:35 pm

There's nothing wrong with being Mentally ret*d. I just wanted to challenge the OP a little.


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17 Jun 2011, 10:08 pm

Nope, certainly not. Though, you've got to remember, people who score low on fairly-administered IQ tests usually have odd brains to begin with, and that means you can't really put them in categories based on their IQ scores. You're testing things like vocabulary or symbol-coding on an IQ test; and you know that for NTs, those things correlate roughly with things like driving, taking a philosophy class, or cooking one's meals--but if you're scoring really low (and you're not distracted or poorly educated or whatnot), then you're probably not NT, and those assumptions apply to you less and less. If I got a really low IQ score, and I knew I'd done my best and not been distracted, I wouldn't be saying, "Well, I must be horrible at everything," I'd be saying, "All right, so I'm really bad at these particular kinds of problems; where else do I use the skills that were tested here? What are my skills in non-tested areas like?"

An IQ test can be useful. When I got mine back I got to look at the sub-test scatter (all over the place, of course; typical autism) and find out some more about what kinds of problems I was good at solving and what gave me trouble. That was quite useful. With that kind of scatter, though, the overall score was pretty well useless. Better to know I got a 10 on picture-sequencing and an 18 on vocabulary, because that tells me I know a lot more about how to use words than I do about predicting how people in a story will act.

I think it's pretty silly not to show people the results of their IQ tests. It's very useful information. If you got, say, a 65, that wouldn't tell you much except that you're probably going to be diagnosed with mild MR. If, on the other hand, you can look at the subscales and see you're great at memorizing sequences of digits and horrible at putting together puzzles, then that'll tell you useful information about yourself that says maybe you should be taking the data-entry job rather than the one doing piecework in the factory.


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