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19 Sep 2006, 7:53 am

it's all spin dude... anyone in possession of atleast half his marbles knows that everything that comes out of "palestine" is a lie...

look up these words in wikipedia:

1. pallywood
2. adnan hajj
3. fauxtography
4. world's unluckiest home owner
5. green helmet man
6. scenes from the extreme
7. the road to jenin


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19 Sep 2006, 7:55 am

hellznrg wrote:
it's all spin dude... anyone in possession of atleast half his marbles knows that everything that comes out of "palestine" is a lie...

look up these words in wikipedia:

1. pallywood
2. adnan hajj
3. fauxtography
4. world's unluckiest home owner
5. green helmet man
6. scenes from the extreme
7. the road to jenin


1. Are you saying those Israeli soldiers would lie to make Israel look bad?

2. "Pallywood" is something invented by Israel. They, and their supporters primarily in the USA, invented this idea that Palestinians shoot each other on camera to make Israelis looks bad. The notion is utterly absurd.



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19 Sep 2006, 10:04 am

Absurd? Go look up the "Zombie Time" website (I'm not allowed to link it, say the moderators).

There, you will see undisputable photographic evidence of Hezbollah staging events for propaganda value, media anti-Israel pro-Palestine pro-Hezbollah bias.



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19 Sep 2006, 4:03 pm

scaramouche, israel may have invented the word pallywood, but it's a name of a very real phenomenon that exists.

if you haven't seen "pallywood" then i think your ill-qualified to comment on it... and it proves that everything you know is one-sided and even your research (if u can call it that) is one-sided...


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20 Sep 2006, 5:23 am

McJeff wrote:
Absurd? Go look up the "Zombie Time" website (I'm not allowed to link it, say the moderators).

There, you will see undisputable photographic evidence of Hezbollah staging events for propaganda value, media anti-Israel pro-Palestine pro-Hezbollah bias.


I've seen Zombie Time. It's the blog of some Israeli kid, with clearly doctored pictures. Sorry, but you'll have to do better than some Israeli kid's blog. How about posting the words of actual IDF officers, as I have?



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20 Sep 2006, 5:24 am

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scaramouche, israel may have invented the word pallywood, but it's a name of a very real phenomenon that exists.

if you haven't seen "pallywood" then i think your ill-qualified to comment on it... and it proves that everything you know is one-sided and even your research (if u can call it that) is one-sided...


The Pallywood movie, which is just a movie, was made 100% by Israelis, and includes alleged "reconstructions" of what they claim some Palestinians did. That's all.



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20 Sep 2006, 10:29 am

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I've seen Zombie Time. It's the blog of some Israeli kid, with clearly doctored pictures. Sorry, but you'll have to do better than some Israeli kid's blog. How about posting the words of actual IDF officers, as I have?


ret*d.

ZombieTime is the Website - not blog - of a person who lives in San Fransisco, California, USA. He got his start photographing the various protests and rallys of the extreme left in the USA. Then was responsible in part for unearthing the Reuters photo-editing scandal.

His current project, debunking Hezbollahs' claims about the ambulances blowing up, has been getting played all over the nation, with not a single person able to debunk any of his claims. The few professional journalists who've tried, have failed miserably.

So if it's such a worthless source - go debunk it. Now.

But for that matter, why is it that everything that comes out of the mouth of Israel/The West is a lie, except for when they criticize Israel? Explain that.



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20 Sep 2006, 3:01 pm

Scaramouche wrote:
hellznrg wrote:
scaramouche, israel may have invented the word pallywood, but it's a name of a very real phenomenon that exists.

if you haven't seen "pallywood" then i think your ill-qualified to comment on it... and it proves that everything you know is one-sided and even your research (if u can call it that) is one-sided...


The Pallywood movie, which is just a movie, was made 100% by Israelis, and includes alleged "reconstructions" of what they claim some Palestinians did. That's all.


i don't remember seeing ANY reconstructions in the movie anywhere.. it was all real life


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20 Sep 2006, 6:15 pm

Extremism of any form is bad news.

I wouldn't trust either side if I were you.


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20 Sep 2006, 6:16 pm

I trust people who can back up what they say.

That's why I like zombie time - it's all there, all photographed for your viewing pleasure.



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21 Sep 2006, 3:25 pm

Quote:
ret*d.

I always know a post will be brilliant when it begins with kindergarten level personal attacks.

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ZombieTime is the Website - not blog - of a person who lives in San Fransisco, California, USA.

A website, not a blog? Ar you saying a blog is not a website? And actually it is a Florida website owned by a very pro-Israeli, anti-Arab Israeli kid. He's a right-wing nutter who takes his camera to what he believes are "Leftist" rallies in an attempt to show the world how nasty and evil those people are.

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He got his start photographing the various protests and rallys of the extreme left in the USA.

Yes, he attends what he believes are evil Lefty rallies, hoping to show his right wing blogger buddies how evil those folks are.

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Then was responsible in part for unearthing the Reuters photo-editing scandal.

All he has been responsible for thus far is an unsubstantiated claim that the global media are lying, based solely on his own Phoroshopped pictures.

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His current project, debunking Hezbollahs' claims about the ambulances blowing up, has been getting played all over the nation, with not a single person able to debunk any of his claims. The few professional journalists who've tried, have failed miserably.

Yes, actually, his own doctred pictures have been debunked a lot, which is why they don't get any coverage outside of a few right-wing nutter publications.

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So if it's such a worthless source - go debunk it. Now.

It's been done a lot.

How about you support your assertion that the attacks were faked.

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But for that matter, why is it that everything that comes out of the mouth of Israel/The West is a lie, except for when they criticize Israel? Explain that.

That's another logical fallacy. It's called a "straw man". But I'm sure you knew that.



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21 Sep 2006, 3:26 pm

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i don't remember seeing ANY reconstructions in the movie anywhere.. it was all real life

Pallywood was reconstructions made by an Israeli with the help of the IDF.



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21 Sep 2006, 4:22 pm

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Zombietime has been debunked a lot


Go find me a debunking that doesn't consist of a journalist saying "Because he is a mere blogger that makes my word more trustworthy than his, now trust me when I say I didn't make s**t up".