Why is Fallout 3 and New Vegas so glitchy?

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Other video games released at the same time don't suffer from too much bugs or lag but Fallout 3 and NV seem to suffer of lots of lags, bugs and crashes even thoug I'm playing them on 360 (something that shouldn't happen because it's a console). Is there some error in the coding and programming or is it just Bethesda who sucks at bug-fixing or does this kind of stuff happen naturally on that kind of game?

I'm ~20 hours into New Vegas and haven't had any bugs (yet?).

i notice on the pc version it can get a bit herky jerky like some event dont trigger.

They're bethesda games.

Nothing? Game freeze and crash all the time...

been wanting to play that fallout

fallout is pretty stable on my computer but only if i don't pump in about 50+ mods. try turning off autosave the pc version has autosave corruption, once i did that my crashing problem almost stopped.

new vegas was the glitchy one on my computer but i didn't like it anyway so no big loss when my compy crashed and i lost the game.

dragon age origins is the most glitchy game on my computer and there is almost nothing i can do to fix it.

Fallout 3 is glitchy because Bethesda made it and Fallout: New Vegas is glitchy because Obsidian made it, both companies are notorious for releasing bug riddled games. Some blame the Gamebryo engine for the games being buggy messes.

Yep. I've played quite a few Bethesda games, and most of them have had game-stopping bugs at some point in their life.

There was a demo of Daggerfall they released way back in the day where as soon as you started the game, you fell through the floor and drowned.



It probably didn't help that Obsidian were forced to use Bethesda's buggy engine.

Yeah your right on that, I didn't want to say it but the Gamebryo engine is bloody horrendous. Thankfully Bethesda are using a new engine for Skyrim, I don't think I could suffer another game using Gamebryo.

Yeah, Daggerfall was extremely buggy. Though they had more excuse for Daggerfall because Daggerfall had randomised quests and dungeons while their more recent games haven't. Let's see what Skyrim brings...

Because there's nothing more fun than crashing to desktop half a minute before you've finished clearing a difficult area filled with good loot. Everyone knows that!

i don't find fallout 3 to be as bad as da:o i can actually play fallout 3 for more then an hour without it crashing, stuttering, lagging, and being a pain in my ass.

i've been fighting with da:o for 2 straight years to get the game to work like it should i still haven't gotten anywhere.

fallout 3 started acting up after several months of nonstop gaming and after i pumped in 50+ mods after about a week of fixing i have almost no problem with it.

my computer must be weird, because no one on bioware forums believed that i was having as much trouble with da:o as i said i was, i even unistalled the game thinking it was harmful to my computer and the game they say is glitchy [da2] i had no problems with and i had the 1.02 glitchy as all hell patch.

i even turned in the ps3 version thinking it was harmful to my ps3 as well.

Fallout 3 and new Vegas run on engines that are 5+ years old and crammed full of stuff. Bugs would be inevitable.

Playing F:NV again. It's a lot more stable on my machine after the recent patches.

...I spoke too soon, changed video settings slightly and it's crash crash crash.

I find that a lot of open world games are glitchy. Developers spend years just to make their games playable, when you'll be done with it in a week or two.
Fallout has huge open worlds. You can't guarantee that the developers will come across EVERY single bug, no matter how much they test it.