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Which religion would be ideal as the basis of government?
Christianity 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Islam 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Hinduism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Buddhism 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Sikhism 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Judaism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Bahaism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Confucianism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jainism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Secularism 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
Pastafarianism 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Other: ____________________ (Please Explain) 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
No government based on religion can ever be ideal. 69%  69%  [ 33 ]
Total votes : 48

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10 Oct 2011, 2:32 pm

As if there was not enough controversy in PP&R, I submit this poll as an informal survey to determine which religion our members think would be the most effective for forming a government.


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10 Oct 2011, 3:16 pm

Fnord wrote:
As if there was not enough controversy in PP&R, I submit this poll as an informal survey to determine which religion our members think would be the most effective for forming a government.


A secular government based on Judeo-Christian values seems to actually be the best way to go. Principles that everyone has inalienable rights given to them by God, as pointed out in our Declaration of Independence for example.


I wouldn't want someone ruling a country as a religious head of state though, nor answering to religious leaders. However, the core principles of the Jewish and Christian Religions are a good foundation for a secular government.

Going back to the idea of our rights coming from God, that means the Government does not have the right to take people's rights away.

That's why I voted Other.



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10 Oct 2011, 3:31 pm

I'd be curious to know what a theocracy based on buddhism would be. Likely it would be a libertarian heaven?


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10 Oct 2011, 3:31 pm

any society based on one view alone will suffer from it,


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10 Oct 2011, 3:32 pm

I accidentally voted "other" but turns out, after thinking about it, I realize that if we had a FSM as the atheist icon, in a thousand or two years, people would actually believe that there is or was a flying spaghetti monster.

So..."other" in terms of pure atheism.


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10 Oct 2011, 3:36 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I'd be curious to know what a theocracy based on buddhism would be. Likely it would be a libertarian heaven?


Eh... not really. Tibet before its annexation by the PRC was a theocratic absolute monarchy and I hesitate to consider it a good country (though I am against the PRC annexation)


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10 Oct 2011, 3:40 pm

And isn't Buddhism a very male-centric religion where men are superior?


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10 Oct 2011, 3:55 pm

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And isn't Buddhism a very male-centric religion where men are superior?


A lot of boys were made to attend "monk education/religious instruction" where there was apparently a fair share of molestation. The Catholics are not alone in their pederasty apparently


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10 Oct 2011, 3:57 pm

I voted none. In a pluralistic society like ours, we can't very well have the government representing one religion at the expense of the others. It's only human nature to neglect, or even discriminate against other faiths not officially represented by the state in such a case.

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10 Oct 2011, 4:17 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I'd be curious to know what a theocracy based on buddhism would be. Likely it would be a libertarian heaven?

Tibet before it was taken over by China.



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10 Oct 2011, 4:19 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I'd be curious to know what a theocracy based on buddhism would be. Likely it would be a libertarian heaven?


More like Shangra La.

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10 Oct 2011, 4:48 pm

Is "Pastafarianism" a religion that follows pasta? If so, that is my vote.



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10 Oct 2011, 5:17 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Fnord wrote:
As if there was not enough controversy in PP&R, I submit this poll as an informal survey to determine which religion our members think would be the most effective for forming a government.
A secular government based on Judeo-Christian values seems to actually be the best way to go.

In America, Judeo-Christian values included slavery (until 1860) and the subjugation of women (until 1911).

Inuyasha wrote:
Principles that everyone has inalienable rights given to them by God, as pointed out in our Declaration of Independence for example.


John Hancock wrote:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Aside from the fact that believing or "holding" something to be true does not make it so, note that the framers of the Declaration of Independence declared that all men (not women) were created equal, and that nearly all of those who signed the Declaration of Independence owned slaves.

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I wouldn't want someone ruling a country as a religious head of state though, nor answering to religious leaders. However, the core principles of the Jewish and Christian Religions are a good foundation for a secular government.

[sarcasm]So when do we start stoning the homosexual men and the adulterous women? Can I sell my daughters for two camels each?[/sarcasm]

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Going back to the idea of our rights coming from God, that means the Government does not have the right to take people's rights away.

Okay, I buy into that interpretation, but I'll still stand by the claim that there are some Judeo-Christian values that are harsh, and that are not really meant for a civilized society.


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10 Oct 2011, 5:34 pm

so a secularism-based government would be anti-religion? to what extent? how would it be different from religion-free government?


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10 Oct 2011, 5:46 pm

You left off the two top practiced religions intertwined with governments: Mammonism and Satanism.

Satanism is the religon practiced by all other hostile governments and their peoples, and Mammonism is the religion practiced by all governments and their respective citizens.

For an example of Mammonism, look at the back of The U.S.A. Federal Reserve Note of the denomination of the unifying "ONE", and to the central left of "IN GOD WE TRUST". The eye of Mammon radiates from the Pyramid.

To the right of "IN GOD WE TRUST" is the winged creature known to have the brain of a bird, and is generally regarded morally as a viscious carnivore, and is not the Phoenix.

You also left off Atheism, which is not Secularism, but is the belief in nothingness, and is just as elusive as the belief in lasting somethingness.

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10 Oct 2011, 6:04 pm

Tadzio wrote:
You left off the two top practiced religions intertwined with governments: Mammonism and Satanism...

I was not concerned with conspiracy theories.

Any omissions are cover by the "Other" option, anyway.


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