Inuyasha wrote:
Fnord wrote:
As if there was not enough controversy in PP&R, I submit this poll as an informal survey to determine which religion our members think would be the most effective for forming a government.
A secular government based on Judeo-Christian values seems to actually be the best way to go.
In America, Judeo-Christian values included slavery (until 1860) and the subjugation of women (until 1911).
Inuyasha wrote:
Principles that everyone has inalienable rights given to them by God, as pointed out in our Declaration of Independence for example.
John Hancock wrote:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Aside from the fact that believing or "holding" something to be true does not make it so, note that the framers of the Declaration of Independence declared that all
men (not women) were created equal, and that nearly all of those who signed the Declaration of Independence owned slaves.
Inuyasha wrote:
I wouldn't want someone ruling a country as a religious head of state though, nor answering to religious leaders. However, the core principles of the Jewish and Christian Religions are a good foundation for a secular government.
[sarcasm]So when do we start stoning the homosexual men and the adulterous women? Can I sell my daughters for two camels each?[/sarcasm]
Inuyasha wrote:
Going back to the idea of our rights coming from God, that means the Government does not have the right to take people's rights away.
Okay, I buy into that interpretation, but I'll still stand by the claim that there are some Judeo-Christian values that are harsh, and that are not really meant for a civilized society.
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