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22 Nov 2006, 12:07 am

I got this article from another site.


I remember the post the perosn made.



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22 Nov 2006, 12:16 am

WHAT!?

Is it just me or is a vicious anti-aspergers movement going on?

"The suit accused the website of failing to alert police, the victims, Freund's family or any authorities to prevent harm. "

Did he actually say he was going to kill people on these forums? I would have remembered the post.

If someone said they were suicidal, I KNOW we would have all tried to help, what other responsibilities does a forum have?

I don't understand..

"and a support-group website where the gunman had vowed to wage a "terror campaign.""

This is ridiculous...

It's gone too far, its obvious this is being used as propoganda against WP.

I understand you can't blame Freund because he killed himself, but how is blaming an internet support group going to help anybody?

Thats like blaming someones friends that spoke to them a week earlier, telling them its their fault because they didn't read their mind, determine the hostility was real, and lock them up.

I'm truly sorry I personally didn't know someone was this close to the edge, I know myself, and many others here would have done their very best to help.

This is the 2nd time I've heard horrible things stated about WP, it really gets to me.


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22 Nov 2006, 12:19 am

pffftt, you can't blame the site, how utterly pathetic.

Just like you can't blame myspace for kidnappers and pedos.

These people need a ram rod up their backside in my opinion.



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22 Nov 2006, 12:25 am

well that is just ass.


might as well try to blame myspace if someone tosses off a rant about wanting to "kill someone".




way to try to place blame where it doesn't lie.


two thumbs down.


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22 Nov 2006, 12:29 am

If it was about money Alex could easily settle the suite or even write a statement
without a lawyer in plain English denying the charges and that could allow him to avoid
a court date without a default judgement.(statement is filed with the court)
Alot of time such law suite are filed to get
about $5000 - $10000 from a realitive poor person . Who will fear having to spend that much on a lawyer and if losing the suite getting a much greater than $10000 judgemnet against them.

My guess since their family members died they want to put WP out of bussiness and they plan on making the money off the other defendents.



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22 Nov 2006, 12:31 am

Alex should consider countersuing. Have the original lawsuit declared frivolous and demand payment of his legal fees.



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22 Nov 2006, 12:35 am

Remnant wrote:
Alex should consider countersuing. Have the original lawsuit declared frivolous and demand payment of his legal fees.


Counter sueing people who lost family would be counter productive with a jury. Remember while Alex is a nice guy . There is no telling what a jury will think and he
will be called an aspie just like the killer.



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22 Nov 2006, 12:36 am

Hopefully he can just get out of this without losing money, thats ridiculous for him to suffer financially because of this.

Also shutting WP down would destroy so many peoples support system and only social contact.


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22 Nov 2006, 12:38 am

We should all get accounts on the other site so we can stay in touch if this one goes down. Then we can put together another wrongplanet site.



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22 Nov 2006, 12:43 am

hale_bopp wrote:
pffftt, you can't blame the site, how utterly pathetic.

Just like you can't blame myspace for kidnappers and pedos.

These people need a ram rod up their backside in my opinion.


That sums up my opinion as well.

It's all about making money these days, even if that money soaked in blood of the victims metaphorically. If the family really cared, they wouldn't sue because they'd respect their death by mourning then move on, not exploit the deaths to get money. If someone around me died because of some killer, I'd purely only want justice to make them pay for what they did; but never would rob everyone around the person and them of all their money as well. I mean come on that's a little harsh if the person is already serving a sentence or is dead and poses no threat to society anymore.

They're pigs in my book for even considering such a lawsuit when clearly, the perpetrator is dead and nothing will bring the victims back, not even money.


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22 Nov 2006, 12:49 am

I don't understand what how would someone go about reporting someone who you don't even know they're real name or where they live so on etc. And how would a person know if they were really serious or just ranting and letting off steam?



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22 Nov 2006, 12:52 am

Remnant wrote:
We should all get accounts on the other site so we can stay in touch if this one goes down. Then we can put together another wrongplanet site.


We will wait till Alex is living in a cardboard box before we do that. Though hopefully
he want. There is a 100% chance he will beat this suite if he fights it. But he has to
think in terms of money he might have to spend far more than WP is worth without
getting paid for his legal cost. Which means barrowing alot of money from family.

In theory if the case gets alot of media time on court TV it might bring alot of new
members to WP. Alex's lawyer would make sure the court knew 99.9% of aspies are
not killers and describle the nature of aspergers in great detail so any viewers could know if they(or a person they know) had it and Wrongplanet.net name mentioned a few hundred times to.



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22 Nov 2006, 12:55 am

bizarre wrote:
I don't understand what how would someone go about reporting someone who you don't even know they're real name or where they live so on etc. And how would a person know if they were really serious or just ranting and letting off steam?


Yeah WP would have to contact the police. And I do not know what the killer said but
a general death threat not directed at a person or real place is not a crime!

Like if I said " I'm going to blow someone away if they get in my way" The police would careless.


The only legal method to track a person down on the net would require court order/police envolvement.



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22 Nov 2006, 1:38 am

Many people rely on this site, and it would be a big loss, if it was banished forever. We should start a Save WrongPlanet petition.



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22 Nov 2006, 1:40 am

IF this gets out of hand, that is. In any case, I'd be more than willing to light the torches and gather the pitchforks and support Wrong Planet in times of need. Cockney, I'll leave you to the picket-signs.


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22 Nov 2006, 1:40 am

Back in the days when I moderated a PTSD support group, one of our members said she was committing suicide. We had every reason to believe her. A couple of dozen members tried all night to reach somebody, somewhere, who would listen and try to help. We came up with *zero*. Even the police in the member's city refused to try to check it out. Why? Because it's impossible.

After that, we made a policy and put it on the Welcome board - to the effect that we can't help in the case of threatened suicide, that there are places to contact (and we listed them), and to please take any talk of suicide to some place more appropriate.
Callous? Just truthful.

Like a lot of other people, I can't imagine a website being held responsible for the actions of an untraceable member. I think it's a shame about the cost and anxiety of a lawsuit. And I think that, given the magnitude of the tragedy in that family, the parents will do what they must, legal or no.
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