Aurora Shooter, Might Have Been 'On The Autism Scale' -Video

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23 Jul 2012, 6:21 pm

Joe Scarborough: James Holmes, Suspected Aurora Shooter, Might Have Been 'On The Autism Scale' (VIDEO):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/joe-scarborough-james-holmes-autism_n_1694599.html

After going on about gun control for most of this discussion, at 7:30 on video found at the link above, the talking head makes the assumption that all, or most, shooters follow a similar mental health pattern. His claim is that they are disintegrated, "well to do", white males on the autism "scale".

He goes on to say that he has a son with aspergers.

I am appalled by the disservice that he is doing to his son and the autism community. In an environment like the US today, everyone is looking for someone to blame and to make the generalization that people on the autism spectrum are the same people committing senseless violence across the country is irresponsible as a reporter, a father, and a sensible human being.

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23 Jul 2012, 6:25 pm

It was only a matter of time :x



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23 Jul 2012, 6:28 pm

The same was said about Breivik in Norway. It's the new psychopath in the public's mind. :lol: I think they will try to pin paranoid schizophrenia on him as they tried in Norway. Even if he's feigning his "joker" thing they'll say he has inadequate functioning and is delusional.



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23 Jul 2012, 10:28 pm

That is an extremely irresponsible thing for a TV host and former congressman to say.

Even if he had credentials in the area, which he does not, he should keep his ridiculous speculations to himself.


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24 Jul 2012, 2:39 am

Now it is only a matter of time before everyone with AS is disarmed.


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24 Jul 2012, 9:36 am

PM wrote:
Now it is only a matter of time before everyone with AS is disarmed.


That would be a violation of the equal protection clause.

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24 Jul 2012, 9:53 am

What is going on here? Is every sociopath going to be regarded as autistic or Aspergarian?

Most Aspies that I know are self absorbed and not inclined to go out a make trouble for other folks.

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24 Jul 2012, 10:24 am

Watch for the re-write of history. Lee Harvey Oswald had AS.



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24 Jul 2012, 11:19 am

Autism will probably become part of the post-massacre propaganda ritual.


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24 Jul 2012, 11:41 am

ruveyn wrote:
What is going on here? Is every sociopath going to be regarded as autistic or Aspergarian?

Most Aspies that I know are self absorbed and not inclined to go out a make trouble for other folks.

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In the past, particularly when I was the victim of bullying, my mental state was such that I did fantasize about killing specific people. Not random people. Fortunately for everyone, I no longer have to deal with anyone nasty. I do have something of an appreciation for that mental state, having almost been there myself. Some people have gone over the line. I haven't.



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24 Jul 2012, 11:50 am

There is nothing clear about this guy.

spree killing tends to have a revenge, resentment, against the world or some kind of political motive, however incoherent.

This doesn't fit at all.

His statement would indicate some kind of psychosis.

However I'm doubtful. I think they need to consider that he playing up to that. I don't actually believe he thought he was the joker, or in a film. What is do think is he was living out a fantasy.



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24 Jul 2012, 1:39 pm

ruveyn wrote:
PM wrote:
Now it is only a matter of time before everyone with AS is disarmed.


That would be a violation of the equal protection clause.

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The US Constitution does not matter to those on The Hill, so i'm reasonably suspicious.


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24 Jul 2012, 2:41 pm

If we're speculating, I think schizophrenia is more likely than autism. I am surprised to hear him say that autism is behind a lot of criminal behaviour; I've thought the opposite to be true.
I feel bad for his son . . . having his Dad say that he thinks his autism makes him more likely to be a killer; scheesh, what a confidence booster.



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24 Jul 2012, 2:52 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
If we're speculating, I think schizophrenia is more likely than autism. I am surprised to hear him say that autism is behind a lot of criminal behaviour; I've thought the opposite to be true.
I feel bad for his son . . . having his Dad say that he thinks his autism makes him more likely to be a killer; scheesh, what a confidence booster.


And what brings you to that conclusion?


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24 Jul 2012, 2:54 pm

Remember after the Columbine shooting everyone was up in arms against Marilyn Manson for *daring* to play a concert in their town. Same thing here.


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24 Jul 2012, 3:12 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Ann2011 wrote:
If we're speculating, I think schizophrenia is more likely than autism. I am surprised to hear him say that autism is behind a lot of criminal behaviour; I've thought the opposite to be true.
I feel bad for his son . . . having his Dad say that he thinks his autism makes him more likely to be a killer; scheesh, what a confidence booster.


And what brings you to that conclusion?


Well it's not a conclusion; but his age coincides with the onset of schizophrenia and he seems to have been operating in a fantasy. Of course, not all those who suffer from schizophrenia are killers, most of them are just trying to get on with their lives like the rest of us. But I do think there is some sort of mental illness involved. On the other hand, he could just be an evil bastard - it happens.