Should this teacher be allowed to work with children?

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21 Aug 2012, 12:51 pm

There is a particular science teacher at my school whom I believe shouldn't be allowed to work with children. He is fairly young, I estimate around 35. I had him for about a month, and while he is undeniably an excellent teacher, he is one of the most terrifying people I've ever encountered.

Here is an example; on the first day I met him (the day after my last teacher left), someone in my class asked his friend for tissue with which to blow his nose. When he noticed this, "Mr Smith" clicked his fingers at him and sternly said "listen sunny boy, don't you dare chat in my class." To which the boy's response was "I wasn't chatting, I was just-". He didn't have time to finish before "Mr Smith" barked "Come here. NOW!". The boy stood at the front of the class. "Mr Smith" stood ridiculously close to him. I estimate that his face was only 4cm away from the boy's face. He then began screaming so loud (and spitting in his face) that I couldn't help but put my fingers in my ears. This continued for 5 minutes before he sent the pale, trembling boy back to his seat and immediately noticed me. I'm sure he was about to sprint over and do the same thing to me, but he must then have remembered that I have AS and probably wanted to avoid being suspended for discrimination.

Yesterday, I was in a class at the opposite end of the corridor when everyone heard a door being swung open and violently slammed shut. A small 1st year (11-13 years old) boy walked out. "Mr Smith" usually becomes such a screaming, infuriated wreck that nobody can understand a word he says. This is what I've managed to decipher from his crazy rampage against his crying, terrified victim yesterday: STAND THERE NOW, AND DON'T YOU DARE SMILE AT ME YOU PATHETIC BA***RD! (evil laughter) DON'T CRY AT ME NOW YOU WEE SH*T! YOU'LL GET NO SYMPATHY FROM ME! HA HA!

Although he is good at his job and I learned a lot from him, should people like this really be working in schools? I don't think so.

P.S - None of the above is exaggerated at all.



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21 Aug 2012, 12:59 pm

Sounds like my youngest son's ex PE teacher. I don't think they should keep him away from working with kids but I think they should tell him to can the Drill Instructor act. If he can't or won't then I'd suggest having him coach the football team. He would probably be a really effective football coach.

My son's ex PE teacher was a retired Drill Instructor and he used a lot of the same tactics on the boys that misbehaved. My kid was a major misbehavor but he would talk or yell back to him.

Yeah, he got suspended a lot. Or paddled.


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21 Aug 2012, 1:07 pm

Uhh, no he should not be allowed working with children. He swore? I'm surprised nobody has reported him yet, that would come down to an immediate firing of the teacher here in Canada.



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21 Aug 2012, 1:07 pm

Curiotical wrote:
There is a particular science teacher at my school whom I believe shouldn't be allowed to work with children. He is fairly young, I estimate around 35. I had him for about a month, and while he is undeniably an excellent teacher, he is one of the most terrifying people I've ever encountered.

Here is an example; on the first day I met him (the day after my last teacher left), someone in my class asked his friend for tissue with which to blow his nose. When he noticed this, "Mr Smith" clicked his fingers at him and sternly said "listen sunny boy, don't you dare chat in my class." To which the boy's response was "I wasn't chatting, I was just-". He didn't have time to finish before "Mr Smith" barked "Come here. NOW!". The boy stood at the front of the class. "Mr Smith" stood ridiculously close to him. I estimate that his face was only 4cm away from the boy's face. He then began screaming so loud (and spitting in his face) that I couldn't help but put my fingers in my ears. This continued for 5 minutes before he sent the pale, trembling boy back to his seat and immediately noticed me. I'm sure he was about to sprint over and do the same thing to me, but he must then have remembered that I have AS and probably wanted to avoid being suspended for discrimination.

Yesterday, I was in a class at the opposite end of the corridor when everyone heard a door being swung open and violently slammed shut. A small 1st year (11-13 years old) boy walked out. "Mr Smith" usually becomes such a screaming, infuriated wreck that nobody can understand a word he says. This is what I've managed to decipher from his crazy rampage against his crying, terrified victim yesterday: STAND THERE NOW, AND DON'T YOU DARE SMILE AT ME YOU PATHETIC BA***RD! (evil laughter) DON'T CRY AT ME NOW YOU WEE SH*T! YOU'LL GET NO SYMPATHY FROM ME! HA HA!

Although he is good at his job and I learned a lot from him, should people like this really be working in schools? I don't think so.

P.S - None of the above is exaggerated at all.


PS you write better at 14, then I have ever been able to in 32 years. So apparently, he is a pretty damn good teacher.



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21 Aug 2012, 1:24 pm

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Curiotical wrote:
There is a particular science teacher at my school whom I believe shouldn't be allowed to work with children. He is fairly young, I estimate around 35. I had him for about a month, and while he is undeniably an excellent teacher, he is one of the most terrifying people I've ever encountered.

Here is an example; on the first day I met him (the day after my last teacher left), someone in my class asked his friend for tissue with which to blow his nose. When he noticed this, "Mr Smith" clicked his fingers at him and sternly said "listen sunny boy, don't you dare chat in my class." To which the boy's response was "I wasn't chatting, I was just-". He didn't have time to finish before "Mr Smith" barked "Come here. NOW!". The boy stood at the front of the class. "Mr Smith" stood ridiculously close to him. I estimate that his face was only 4cm away from the boy's face. He then began screaming so loud (and spitting in his face) that I couldn't help but put my fingers in my ears. This continued for 5 minutes before he sent the pale, trembling boy back to his seat and immediately noticed me. I'm sure he was about to sprint over and do the same thing to me, but he must then have remembered that I have AS and probably wanted to avoid being suspended for discrimination.

Yesterday, I was in a class at the opposite end of the corridor when everyone heard a door being swung open and violently slammed shut. A small 1st year (11-13 years old) boy walked out. "Mr Smith" usually becomes such a screaming, infuriated wreck that nobody can understand a word he says. This is what I've managed to decipher from his crazy rampage against his crying, terrified victim yesterday: STAND THERE NOW, AND DON'T YOU DARE SMILE AT ME YOU PATHETIC BA***RD! (evil laughter) DON'T CRY AT ME NOW YOU WEE SH*T! YOU'LL GET NO SYMPATHY FROM ME! HA HA!

Although he is good at his job and I learned a lot from him, should people like this really be working in schools? I don't think so.

P.S - None of the above is exaggerated at all.


PS you write better at 14, then I have ever been able to in 32 years. So apparently, he is a pretty damn good teacher.


Thank you for the compliment! No one has ever told me that before! The teacher I'm refering to is only a science teacher, but I did have a fantastic English teacher for two years.



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21 Aug 2012, 1:45 pm

I don't think he ought to be working with kids at all. I suffered under a lot of bad teachers in my life, and although this isn't the worst example I could think of, I'd consider it bullying. And kids do not need to be bullied by teachers. Period.


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21 Aug 2012, 1:47 pm

I think that his colourful langauge is a problem, the teacher needs to clean up his act.


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21 Aug 2012, 2:33 pm

I don't have kids, so perhaps I'm not the best person to answer. However, if I did have children I wouldn't let them anywhere near that jerk. I'd certainly give his superiors an earful...

Sounds like a wannabe cop (or drill instructor, security guard, etc.) to me, not a teacher of children and other young persons. Just my $0.02.

Perhaps, with enough external motivation, he might be able to change himself somewhat and tone down the aggression. But, as it stands, he doesn't sound fit to teach children, even my hypothetical ones.



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21 Aug 2012, 3:16 pm

After the first incident described in the OP, the department head (Mr Smith's boss) even looked quite scared while he was talking to someone from my class! I think he should either leave permenantly or take some anger management lessons.

I know this is none of my business, but he actually has a one year old girl at home. I sincerely hope this is the source of his stress and subsequent aggressive behaviour. If not, then I can't bear to think of what his daughter will have to go through. 8O



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21 Aug 2012, 3:21 pm

Like lostgirl said, his colourful language could warrant a child abuse (verbal abuse) allegation here in Canada, and get him fired.



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21 Aug 2012, 3:27 pm

The behaviour you describe is unacceptable.

I've had a look about the Internet and it seems that you can raise a complaint with the Council - through their Children's Charter. Another option you might like to check out is the General Teaching Council for Scotland.



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21 Aug 2012, 3:39 pm

deltafunction wrote:
Like lostgirl said, his colourful language could warrant a child abuse (verbal abuse) allegation here in Canada, and get him fired.


Hmm... it seems that the authorities are much more lenient over here.



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21 Aug 2012, 3:46 pm

Marcia wrote:
The behaviour you describe is unacceptable.

I've had a look about the Internet and it seems that you can raise a complaint with the Council - through their Children's Charter. Another option you might like to check out is the General Teaching Council for Scotland.


That's a good idea but I don't know if I want to become involved in something like this, especially as it no longer effects (Effects? Affects? I don't know...) me directly but my Aspie friend is in his class and if this teacher gives him any of this crap, I'll have to do something about it.



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21 Aug 2012, 4:21 pm

I wonder how my usual technique of yawning and then asking "I'm sorry, did you say something?" would have gone over with him... Or looking intently and then asking him if he knew he had a really long nose hair sticking out... I made my own fun in school.



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21 Aug 2012, 5:16 pm

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I wonder how my usual technique of yawning and then asking "I'm sorry, did you say something?" would have gone over with him... Or looking intently and then asking him if he knew he had a really long nose hair sticking out... I made my own fun in school.


Ha! Just the thought of the look on his deformed-turtle-like face is priceless!

On a more serious note, I wouldn't completely disregard the possibility of him punching you for saying something like that!

Given that his idea of the worst disrespect he has ever suffered from a pupil is someone denying that they spoke over him, I don't think anyone has ever dared to disrespect him.



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21 Aug 2012, 7:19 pm

I went to high school with some people who would benefit from this guy.