High-functioning, yet unfit for work

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02 Oct 2012, 9:07 am

I am unfit for work. I've tried different things, and found I'm unfit for all of them.

Obviously can't do retail because I am too quiet and timid to interact formally with customers
After a trial at a cleaning job apparently I now can't do cleaning because I am too slow
Can't do delivery jobs because it involves driving a vehicle and I am too nervous on the roads (got to have driving experience anyway)
Can't work in a factory because most factory work involves measurements and I'm no good with maths
Can't work in a restaurant because involves too much multitasking and apparently I can't do that
Can't work on the computer because every administrator job advertisement says ''excellent communication skills is essencial, must be able to use the telephone''
Don't even mention work that involves specific high intelligence like science

''Practice makes perfect'' doesn't work with me. I've had plenty of experience and the outcome has always been ''nope, found I won't be able to get on with that'', and that's not my own opinion, it's also from the employer.

I think I will be best off doing the most basic work like packing boxes. Even then there's probably a skill they want that I haven't got. This means I must be so stupid. :cry:
A person with no arms and legs has less barriers than me.
And they say I'm NOT entitled to disability living allowance????


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02 Oct 2012, 11:59 am

*HUG*

I've been there too, love. Took me 11 years to find my current job. The government says they're non-discriminatory towards the disabled, but I wonder if it isn't being taken to a more subtle level by private firms - yes, you've disclosed you're disabled, and we'll give you an interview... but you still won't get the job, regardless of intelligence.

I can only say what everyone else does - keep trying. Someone, somewhere is a human being.


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02 Oct 2012, 1:22 pm

How about gardening? Or taking care of animals?

Is there much demand in the UK for independent contractors to do this kind of work?



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02 Oct 2012, 2:46 pm

((((Joe90))))

I feel the same way. Can't work a trade due to dyspraxia. Can't do office work due to not being able to negotiate office politics. Too HF for menial work, so the private corporation that contracts with Vocational Rehab won't consider me. I tried several businesses, and working as a teacher's aide. I can't do anything. America has been de-industrialized, so there are very few jobs, and 7 seekers for every opening. I don't stand a chance.



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02 Oct 2012, 3:03 pm

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Too HF for menial work, so the private corporation that contracts with Vocational Rehab won't consider me.


I don't understand that concept. Whenever possible we all need to earn our own way -- there is no work that is too menial.

Years ago, someone I am related to in some way graduated from the University of Texas and then went into the military for World War II. After he got out of the military at the end of the war, he considered every job to be beneath him. So he spent his entire life living on whatever veterans benefits he received as a result of being in the military during World War II and spent his time on loftier pursuits, mainly reading. After all, anything else was too menial for him.

While he held himself up to be some poetic hero staying above the working life, I think he was rather pathetic.



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02 Oct 2012, 3:32 pm

I seem to let my fears get in the way too. Well, some fears are more tolerable than others, like I fear crowds and horrible screaming toddlers, but I can still work in a supermarket stacking shelves (that is, if there isn't some other barrier that gets in the way of a simple job like that). But I cannot work in a school cleaning or other part time jobs like that because I absolutely loathe bells. I hate them. They make me completely anxious. Yes I could take earplugs but I don't really want to be caught wearing earplugs because (I can't help it) I'm sensitive to judgement and not all Aspies like being judged. And I can't work at a nursery (as much as I would love to) because small children pick up tummy bugs a lot, and I am absolutely terrified of being sick, and working in an environment with a lot of small children, one of them is bound to have a tummy bug, especially around the winter, and being trapped in somewhere with a tummy bug going around cannot be avoided, especially that horrible norovirus. I know it sounds terrible but I just cannot risk catching that.

Everyone has fears, I'm sure everybody has a type of job they will always avoid because it involves a fear that they have. So I don't think it's me being silly.


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02 Oct 2012, 5:16 pm

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Too HF for menial work, so the private corporation that contracts with Vocational Rehab won't consider me.


I don't understand that concept. Whenever possible we all need to earn our own way -- there is no work that is too menial.

Years ago, someone I am related to in some way graduated from the University of Texas and then went into the military for World War II. After he got out of the military at the end of the war, he considered every job to be beneath him. So he spent his entire life living on whatever veterans benefits he received as a result of being in the military during World War II and spent his time on loftier pursuits, mainly reading. After all, anything else was too menial for him.

While he held himself up to be some poetic hero staying above the working life, I think he was rather pathetic.


Hey, I told Pride Industries, which is the private corporation, that I'd do anything, make boxes, wash out those plastic shipping boxes, etc, and they said no, those were for people who were severely MR. They wanted me to find a job with somebody else, but offered no assistance. They "evaluated" me, told me I was too HF to work for them, then gave me the url's of a couple online job boards and pushed me out the door. I can't go back to Voc Rehab because they'd do the same thing all over again. I told them this was ridiculous, that I was going to go learn how to be a computer technician. Problem was, the private vocational school I picked really didn't teach us anything. So I tried to make my own living as a computer tech, and failed because there are a dozen schools churning out useless tech grads in my area, and they all want to be computer techs. I tried to fix iPhones, and couldn't because of dyspraxia, I couldn't handle the small parts. I tried to earn a living as a teacher's aide, and was not asked back after a year. I simply am out of options.



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02 Oct 2012, 6:41 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I seem to let my fears get in the way too. Well, some fears are more tolerable than others, like I fear crowds and horrible screaming toddlers, but I can still work in a supermarket stacking shelves (that is, if there isn't some other barrier that gets in the way of a simple job like that). But I cannot work in a school cleaning or other part time jobs like that because I absolutely loathe bells. I hate them. They make me completely anxious. Yes I could take earplugs but I don't really want to be caught wearing earplugs because (I can't help it) I'm sensitive to judgement and not all Aspies like being judged. And I can't work at a nursery (as much as I would love to) because small children pick up tummy bugs a lot, and I am absolutely terrified of being sick, and working in an environment with a lot of small children, one of them is bound to have a tummy bug, especially around the winter, and being trapped in somewhere with a tummy bug going around cannot be avoided, especially that horrible norovirus. I know it sounds terrible but I just cannot risk catching that.

Everyone has fears, I'm sure everybody has a type of job they will always avoid because it involves a fear that they have. So I don't think it's me being silly.


**** For what it's worth, I had a fear of using the phone (noise, strangers, etc). What do I do now? Answer the phone for social services, :lol: .


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03 Oct 2012, 5:25 pm

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pezar wrote:
Too HF for menial work, so the private corporation that contracts with Vocational Rehab won't consider me.


I don't understand that concept. Whenever possible we all need to earn our own way -- there is no work that is too menial.

Years ago, someone I am related to in some way graduated from the University of Texas and then went into the military for World War II. After he got out of the military at the end of the war, he considered every job to be beneath him. So he spent his entire life living on whatever veterans benefits he received as a result of being in the military during World War II and spent his time on loftier pursuits, mainly reading. After all, anything else was too menial for him.

While he held himself up to be some poetic hero staying above the working life, I think he was rather pathetic.


I think your relative got reincarnated as my husband. :lol: He thinks that he should be a lawyer or a college professor, not a paralegal or a high school English teacher. So he delivers pizzas or waits tables while waiting for his true greatness to be discovered. :roll:


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04 Oct 2012, 3:40 pm

A lot of what Joe90 says in her opening post sounds familiar. I currently volunteer in a charity shop. I hate working with the customers and am now trying to find an alternative due to my disabilities. :(



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05 Oct 2012, 7:10 am

I don't think you're unfit for work Joe90 - you are intelligent, sensitive, keen to work. I think you just haven't found the right job yet.

I've often thought about quitting my job to get a job like shelf stacker, box packer, data entry etc because the repetitiveness and lack of interaction really seems like it would make it stress free. Haven't done it because it would plunge us into financial difficulty and we would lose our house.

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A person with no arms and legs has less barriers than me.
And they say I'm NOT entitled to disability living allowance????


DLA has nothing to do with your fitness for work. You can claim DLA while being in work - it's designed to help with the extra costs of a living incurred as a result of your disability (costs that a non-disabled person would not have).


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05 Oct 2012, 6:18 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I am unfit for work. I've tried different things, and found I'm unfit for all of them.

Obviously can't do retail because I am too quiet and timid to interact formally with customers
After a trial at a cleaning job apparently I now can't do cleaning because I am too slow
Can't do delivery jobs because it involves driving a vehicle and I am too nervous on the roads (got to have driving experience anyway)
Can't work in a factory because most factory work involves measurements and I'm no good with maths
Can't work in a restaurant because involves too much multitasking and apparently I can't do that
Can't work on the computer because every administrator job advertisement says ''excellent communication skills is essencial, must be able to use the telephone''
Don't even mention work that involves specific high intelligence like science

''Practice makes perfect'' doesn't work with me. I've had plenty of experience and the outcome has always been ''nope, found I won't be able to get on with that'', and that's not my own opinion, it's also from the employer.

I think I will be best off doing the most basic work like packing boxes. Even then there's probably a skill they want that I haven't got. This means I must be so stupid. :cry:
A person with no arms and legs has less barriers than me.
And they say I'm NOT entitled to disability living allowance????

You sound just like me; nervous, awkward, and slow when it comes to learning tasks. I do want a job though because I want to make money and it gives me something to do. I'm willing to talk as long as it's minimal and necessary and I can avoid impatient and demanding people.



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05 Oct 2012, 9:54 pm

Have you thought of becoming an IRC operator or network security man, OP? These are two things I wish to do.



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06 Oct 2012, 6:30 pm

I'm in a similar spot. I'm too high functioning to qualify for services, but at the same time I can't talk an employer into keeping me around.


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07 Oct 2012, 10:15 am

I think your biggest barrier is your confidence.

There's loads of things in my job descriptions I'm not very good at. I interact with people all day. Lots of elements of my job require me to me empathetic..I'm not but I get by and my strengths are in the organisational side of the job. Just because you've seen some jobs which require certain things, doesn't mean you won't be able to do ANY of those jobs.



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07 Oct 2012, 7:22 pm

I would look for a job that is "behind the scenes". Maybe back-office file clerk in an educational institution. I believe places like colleges and universities would be more tolerant and understanding of disabled employees. I would LOVE to be a computer repair tech or analyst at a university.


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