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17 Oct 2012, 7:44 pm

I do almost no downloading, keep regular scans and keep my registry clean yet I constantly have annoying s**t happen like the recent blue screen of death issue I have been having. It is completely random and it has been pissing me off...mostly because we can't get flash to work universally. The fact flash can cause Firefox to force a crash is pathetic since we sent a man to the moon with far less data.

Then there are all the random TDSS viruses I have that cause issues with my registry and my computer dropping files, which is a constant nuiscance. Why the hell do I keep getting these issues? I use my computer carefully and responsibly.

Before anyone mentions porn websites that is just a rumor...you are far more likely to get a virus through a religious website ironically.


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17 Oct 2012, 8:19 pm

Do you run an ad blocker? Some of the shadier ad servers buy space on decent websites and sometimes the ads on those shady ad servers will include spyware and viruses.


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17 Oct 2012, 8:20 pm

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Do you run an ad blocker? Some of the shadier ad servers buy space on decent websites and sometimes the ads on those shady ad servers will include spyware and viruses.


Adblocker with Threatfire. I just don't understand why I have these issues so damn often. Hell, right now I am trying to install some software but keep getting Blue Screen of death before it installs.


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17 Oct 2012, 8:31 pm

In my experience BSOD is almost always a hardware failure.

It can be due to an illegal driver call, but most often, it is due to the driver not being able to communicate properly with hardware.

Random does not exist in computers.

If you are seeing 'random' BSOD's it is often caused by a heat build up in the case causing a hardware failure. However, if you are seeing root kits and/or viruses you need to kill those first.

I recommend the following.
1. http://www.malwarebytes.org.
2. http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208280684 for the TDSSkiller.
3. http://www.symantec.com/index.jsp. I like Avast. It is free and does the job most of the time. On my work PC, I take no chances. Avast lets things in from time to time, so does Norton but Norton does it a whole lot less often.
4. Monitor your internal temperatures from your mobo. Your mobo should come with software to do this. If it does not, check out CPU-Z and GPU-Z. Both will tell you the temperature of your processors which (aside from your power supply) are the primary heat generators.

Lastly, TDSS viruses are root kits and usually inside a trojan horse. I recommend downloading to your desktop and scanning ANYTHING you install especially plug ins for a browser. If it won't let you do that, it's a trojan. Don't install it.

The less data you move, the simpler the task. Flash is far more complicated than the entire OS on Eagle 1. Can you imagine the warning messages NASA would have to deal with if they flew missions on a Windows OS...The oxygen regulator has encountered an error and needs to shut down. Please restart the system. If you continue to see this message please contact your system administrator...



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17 Oct 2012, 8:35 pm

I already did scans and the heat for the computer is fine...it seems to be a formatting issues, particularly since it is trying to install Music Creator 6 as C++. Might be the computer not being able to convert it to that formatting.

Already killed the TDSS issues....only one was a calender scheduler. The Avast link doesn't work (at least currently.)

The other BSODs are related to Adobe Flash and Firefox. Apparently new Flash version causes a lot of people to have BSODs.


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17 Oct 2012, 8:46 pm

Sorry the Avast link was supposed to take you to symantec for Norton. The Norton link was UGLY.

I don't run Firefox so I am not aware of the issues with Flash.

Have you tried uninstalling Firefox and running IE 8 or IE 9? I know that stinks if you like Firefox or hate IE but if this is a Firefox/Flash issue, it will get fixed eventually and you can go back to it once the geeks get the calls in synch.

If that doesn't fix the issue you have, at least, eliminated a possibility.



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17 Oct 2012, 8:47 pm

I like my plug ins too much so I just deal with it. Would Google Chrome be a decent substitute until then though?


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17 Oct 2012, 9:13 pm

Being the person I am, I tend to keep it simple.

Computers always do EXACTLY what they are told to do. They have no context until you give them one. They have no intuition unless you program them to because they have no experiences of their own. It's like trying to teach sex ed to a 13 year old kid. Keep it simple. S&M just isn't going to explain well.

I have used Chrome and I found it to be a clean, fast browser. However, IE comes with the OS and is (in my opinion) the simplest solution. IE is missionary style only and Chrome allows for some kink. Yes kink is fun but it is more complicated.

I have a strong tendency for simple. Life is complicated enough.

I apologize for the sexual analogy. My wife just got back from Kansas today and it is bed time...



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18 Oct 2012, 12:08 am

Bad RAM is often the cause of this kind of very unpredictable failure. If the computer is over 4 years old, it could even be capacitor leakage on the verge of death.

I'd run a really good RAM testing utility (usually off a boot CD, Win7 has one now) and test the RAM overnight... if there's any glitches, they'll be found.



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18 Oct 2012, 12:11 am

Get a real operating system like Unix and get rid of the whole problem.



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18 Oct 2012, 12:48 am

Keyman wrote:
Get a real operating system like Unix and get rid of the whole problem.


Now, now... ;) Bad RAM will kill Ubunto too.



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18 Oct 2012, 5:45 am

Every PC that accesses the internet has the potential to become infected. Thinking otherwise would be like driving your car daily and thinkng you'll never die in an mva.


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18 Oct 2012, 7:17 am

Bad ram tends to return errors that are ram specific. You will often see errors like 'the address at x0000ww8899 (fictitious) was not reacheable' or something like that. These tend to occur before things get to the BSOD stage.

Bad ram tends to cause posting issues by the time it gets to the BSOD. Your motherboard should be beeping at you and the OS would often be unreacheable once bad RAM gets to the point where it is crashing you to a BSOD.

While RAM is a possibility, it is not most likely and is a hard find and fix. Start lower down the tree.

I'm still thinking virus and malware.

What virus scan are you using and are you POSITIVE you are up to date?
Did you download, install and run malwarebytes?



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18 Oct 2012, 7:25 am

CranialRectosis wrote:
Bad ram tends to return errors that are ram specific. You will often see errors like 'the address at x0000ww8899 (fictitious) was not reacheable' or something like that. These tend to occur before things get to the BSOD stage.

Bad ram tends to cause posting issues by the time it gets to the BSOD. Your motherboard should be beeping at you and the OS would often be unreacheable once bad RAM gets to the point where it is crashing you to a BSOD.

While RAM is a possibility, it is not most likely and is a hard find and fix. Start lower down the tree.

I'm still thinking virus and malware.

What virus scan are you using and are you POSITIVE you are up to date?
Did you download, install and run malwarebytes?


depends on what part of the ram are damaged,

if it is part of the control structure then you are right it wouldnt make it much past post

slightly damaged storage sectors on the other hand will only fail when called and that can be whenever, depedning on failure mode it may or may not return an adress.
as far as RAM errors go i would say they are 50-50, stil much more likely to be something else,

is there a pattern to when it happens?
if it always happens when doing something graphical i would start with checking the gpu drivers, gpu drivers are immensely complex even compared to many other drivers and there are some really weird bugs on some.


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18 Oct 2012, 8:22 am

I absolutely concur with Oodain.

Start with software. Purge the malware and viruses first.

GPU-Z and CPU-Z will access and show diagnostics for your two most vulnerable pieces of hardware and show you temps inside the case.

If GPU-Z or CPU-Z cannot run, we have discovered the failing point and only need to determine if the issue is software or hardware.

As a gamer, you should keep the video card drivers up to date anyway. Download and install the latest.

There are many, many other possibilities here. You could have a failing NIC on the MOBO. The issue could be RAM, it could be caused by a loose or bad card installed on the MOBO. All of these things are possible, but start with software. It is the most likely cause and usually the least expensive to repair.



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18 Oct 2012, 11:04 am

BlueMax wrote:
Keyman wrote:
Get a real operating system like Unix and get rid of the whole problem.


Now, now... ;) Bad RAM will kill Ubunto too.


This is true, but from what I've seen of the last two LTS releases of Ubuntu, they're getting fairly dodgy as well. If you're going to run a Debian based Linux, I would suggest SolusOS, which is Debian Stable respun for desktop usage with a current kernel and updated software.


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