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Aspie_Chav
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06 Nov 2012, 11:28 pm

Power to the people etc.
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06 Nov 2012, 11:31 pm

Neener.

Neener.

Neener.

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07 Nov 2012, 12:47 am

Sadly, I can see this happening now that Obama's been re-elected.



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07 Nov 2012, 12:50 am

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Why are all the members of the USSA's armed forces Asian? :duh:



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07 Nov 2012, 12:50 am

I can only see a further decline in the influence of America's wealthy white male racist sub-culture.


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07 Nov 2012, 1:40 am

I'm sure the Tea Party will react to this news with maturity and rationality.


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07 Nov 2012, 1:43 am

Pyrite wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
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Why are all the members of the USSA's armed forces Asian? :duh:


because china took over after all the borrowing from them we did



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07 Nov 2012, 1:46 am

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I can only see a further decline in the influence of America's wealthy white male racist sub-culture.


thats where you're so wrong. When s**t hits the fan the rich have the real power. And a government gone bust will do anything it can to keep them on their side.



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07 Nov 2012, 1:52 am

We shall see, young man ... we shall see ...


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07 Nov 2012, 2:03 am

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I can only see a further decline in the influence of America's wealthy white male racist sub-culture.


The only reason why this election was close. Its wasn't and election about different economic philosophy/sciences. It was an election of illogical Christian conservatives vs leftwing who get easily bored with economics.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:04 am

Fnord wrote:
We shall see, young man ... we shall see ...


ill start naming the new "axis" powers. china, nkorea, russia, iran and most of the middle east, Libya and most other failing african nations. Just wait and see. Its the only way out of this. What got us out of every mayor recession and depression? A really big war.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:15 am

I hate NTs. They are a right bunch of tossers, I tell thee! They vote on something that will effect all Americans lives, and they are arrogant enough to believe, they don't need to learn about the basics of economics. If I find out that 95% of Afro-Americans voted for Obama, I am going to shoot myself, as this isn't a world I belong in. It is no point discussing why that 95% believe in Keynesian economics.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:16 am

If Romney had been the same guy who was governor of Massachusetts, and not the wingnut "severely conservative" primary candidate who had to pander to a rabid, racist, misogynistic, fundie base, he would probably have won.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:17 am

I am ashamed to be an American today.



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07 Nov 2012, 11:36 am

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If Romney had been the same guy who was governor of Massachusetts, and not the wingnut "severely conservative" primary candidate who had to pander to a rabid, racist, misogynistic, fundie base, he would probably have won.


I think you're right... America is a moderate country, and planks form both parties are in the makeup of most citizens. When they cater to the fringes on both sides is what it gets nuts. Although, I think the 'racism' element of the Republican party is greatly overstated vs. what most Republicans really feel in their hearts. I think in general (not saying you are saying this) it is a convenient argument that can be made to get a person really upset in a really short period of time in order to make them look nuts. It really bothers me that people are labeled as such when they really, honestly, truly aren't. Just as many racist citizens inhabit both fringes, and should be denounced as such. It's time to move past that crap, and the crap that is slung by both sides, because it's turning us into a divided and cynical country. Both parties have wingnuts, rabid members, and fundies. I wish we could pick 2 names out of the phone book with no special interest ties or histories in politics and run with them.

In the end, it doesn't matter- no President or defeated candidate are larger than the country, and we will survive. I don't doubt that. The sun rose this morning, so that's a good sign... :)

I think voter apathy for a lot of people including myself is summed up brilliantly in this article by William Hurt:

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WASHINGTON — All that for nothing. It was the billion-dollar election that did not decide one single damned thing.

Republicans control the House. Democrats control the Senate. And the White House remains in Democratic hands with absolutely no mandate whatsoever.

Another four years with no hope of change.

In this environment with this economy and all the gravely important matters pressing against the very existence of this country, it should have been a tsunami election. It should have been a landslide that sent President Obama into dust heap of failed presidencies. Instead, the election was about Big Bird.

It was the rape election. The contraception election. The binders full of women election.

It was about who was born where and whether she really could claim to be a Cherokee Indian.

It was about former president George W. Bush. And it was about gay marriage.

It was about the 1 percent and the 99 percent and the 47 percent.

It was about dancing freaking horses, for crying out loud!

Just about the only thing the election wasn’t about was the economy, which everyone agrees was the only thing voters actually cared about. People tend to really care about the economy when real unemployment reaches double digits, welfare rolls fatten by one-third, politicians rack up $16 trillion in debt and the largest tax hike in the history of the world looms just weeks away.

Yet that obviously is not what decided this election. Politicians were too busy talking all about Big Bird, rape and dancing horses.

The most disturbing issue of the election was how President Obama managed to win re-election in places like Ohio and Pennsylvania and Michigan by talking about the highly unpopular bailout of General Motors. By taking billions of dollars in hard-earned money from taxpayers during a deep recession and giving it to a couple of huge companies, Obama managed to buy the votes he needed to eke out re-election. Taxpayers remain on the hook to the tune of $25 billion.

This is the Achilles heel of a democracy. Politicians simply tax those who do not support them and give the money to those who do. Or give the money to those they would like to have support them. It is the end of the line. Game over.

The weeks to come will feature endless finger-pointing and blame about how Republicans do not know how to speak to non-white voters and women and all that non-sense.

What happened last night is the same thing that has been happening for decades in America. Politicians deploy all this highly precise technology to slice and dice voters into little micro-groups and then talk to them all about dancing horses or Big Bird.

The result is you have all these states vote for one side and all these other states vote for the other side and it all comes down to Florida and Ohio. You could have given me a lot less than a billion dollars and I could have told you that.

The only way this gridlock is finally broken is when politicians grow up and decide to put away Big Bird and dancing horses and seriously address like adults the $16 trillion in debts they have racked up on our credit card.

Read more: HURT: Obama victory means four more years with no hope of change -
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07 Nov 2012, 11:39 am

Aspie_Chav wrote:
I hate NTs. They are a right bunch of tossers, I tell thee! They vote on something that will effect all Americans lives, and they are arrogant enough to believe, they don't need to learn about the basics of economics. If I find out that 95% of Afro-Americans voted for Obama, I am going to shoot myself, as this isn't a world I belong in. It is no point discussing why that 95% believe in Keynesian economics.


want to hear something sad? Its probably higher than 95%. plus they had higher turnouts than ever.

this election was won not by people voting not for who will keep america being strong, but by who gathered enough special groups and ignored the real issues



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