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25 Feb 2013, 10:29 am

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Horse meat found in Ikea meatballs
  • Ikea has withdrawn a batch meatballs from sale in its British stores after they were found to contain with horse meat.
The Czech state veterinary administration found the contamination in 1kg (2.2lb) packs of frozen meatballs, which are sold in Ikea stores around the world.

Ikea said it is taken the result "seriously" and is removing the meatballs from sale in countries across Europe.

The inspectors took samples for DNA tests in the city of Brno from a product labelled as "beef and pork meatballs", the statement said.



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25 Feb 2013, 10:56 am

Either the authorities crack down harder on 'tainted' beef, or people get used to the idea of eating horsemeat.


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25 Feb 2013, 3:07 pm

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Either the authorities crack down harder on 'tainted' beef...


The EU won´t let them. That´s just the problem. The Schengen treaty prohibits systematic border controls. This doesn´t only lead to horsemeat of unknown origin getting into the food industry, but much more serious problems like illegal immegrants, exploitation of east Europeans looking for a job and human trafficking.



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25 Feb 2013, 3:12 pm

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The EU won´t let them. That´s just the problem. The Schengen treaty prohibits systematic border controls. This doesn´t only lead to horsemeat of unknown origin getting into the food industry, but much more serious problems like illegal immegrants, exploitation of east Europeans looking for a job and human trafficking.


The EU is to blame for this situation, by helping to close down the cheap meat-based industry in the UK and closing many British abbatoirs.



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25 Feb 2013, 3:36 pm

NewDawn wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Either the authorities crack down harder on 'tainted' beef...
The EU won´t let them. That´s just the problem. The Schengen treaty prohibits systematic border controls. This does not only lead to horsemeat of unknown origin getting into the food industry, but much more serious problems like illegal immigrants, exploitation of east Europeans looking for a job and human trafficking.

... then the people should get used to the idea of eating horsemeat.


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25 Feb 2013, 3:41 pm

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... then the people should get used to the idea of eating horsemeat.


The answer comes in a purple and yellow wrapper. More and more people are turning towards it, but not enough are, and not quickly enough.



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25 Feb 2013, 4:52 pm

Just label everything with this: Could contain traces of horsemeat.
They do the same thing with peanuts and nuts for the people with allergies.



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25 Feb 2013, 5:09 pm

Deregulation always make everything better, see?



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25 Feb 2013, 9:18 pm

It does say "meat"balls and horse is considered meat.



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25 Feb 2013, 9:40 pm

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It does say "meat"balls and horse is considered meat.


It said on the package it contains beef and pork.
It's been found in supermarkets, school meals, elderly care units... by now every Brit who is not a vegetarian has probably eaten horsemeat.



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25 Feb 2013, 9:42 pm

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It's been found in supermarkets, school meals, elderly care units... by now every Brit who is not a vegetarian has probably eaten horsemeat.


Certainly anyone who has eaten supermarket meat probably has a high likelihood of having consumed something that has contained it at some point.



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25 Feb 2013, 9:52 pm

Tequila wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
It's been found in supermarkets, school meals, elderly care units... by now every Brit who is not a vegetarian has probably eaten horsemeat.


Certainly anyone who has eaten supermarket meat probably has a high likelihood of having consumed something that has contained it at some point.


Especially since it's probably been going on for years. And now when they start looking for it it's everywhere. I wonder what happens to all the stuff they pulled. Will they destroy it all for often containing miniscule amounts of horsemeat (in the article they found some stuff with 2% horsemeat)? Will they feed it to the pigs, or will they keep it out of the foodchain because they don't trust it at all?

Something else to wonder about... if you don't want to eat horses, do you want to eat pork from a pig that has been fed horsemeat? Because when dead horses are not eaten by humans they probably end up in pigfood or catfood.



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25 Feb 2013, 10:48 pm

Why is it OK to eat other animals, but taboo to eat horse? Its just an arbitrary cultural norm.

I've had horse. The only thing I couldn't decide is whether it would be paired better with a pale ale or a larger.



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25 Feb 2013, 10:58 pm

^

Is there something intrinsically bad about horsemeat, or it's just cultural conditioning?


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25 Feb 2013, 11:09 pm

Cash__ wrote:
Why is it OK to eat other animals, but taboo to eat horse? Its just an arbitrary cultural norm.

I've had horse. The only thing I couldn't decide is whether it would be paired better with a pale ale or a larger.


I believe horsemeat is not kosher. I also think religious dietary laws are silly, but people should still be informed of the ingredients and make the decision whether to eat types of meat for themselves.

Personally I don't have a problem with eating horses. When I was a young, we sometimes ate horsesteak and it was pretty good. Horsemeat is often also used in frikandel:

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Shatbat wrote:
^

Is there something intrinsically bad about horsemeat, or it's just cultural conditioning?


It's cultural. Horsemeat is fairly healthy, it contains more iron than beef.



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25 Feb 2013, 11:13 pm

trollcatman wrote:
Something else to wonder about... if you don't want to eat horses, do you want to eat pork from a pig that has been fed horsemeat? Because when dead horses are not eaten by humans they probably end up in pigfood or catfood.

^Or dogfood, in my country.

By the way, am I the only one here who thought Ikea was just a furniture store?