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12 Sep 2014, 1:19 pm

Ok,there are plenty of bitter single men groups
like TFL,incels,red piller but there's none for single women.
I wonder why that is.Angry single men tend to clique
up with one another,support each other,and talk about
how ''terrible women''are but you don't see angry
single women clique up with each other.

even the more nicer,non-bitter single guys
have their own clique group of other single
guys they hangout with. Again,you don't
see single ladies clique up with each other.



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12 Sep 2014, 2:09 pm

Feminists?


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12 Sep 2014, 2:09 pm

It seems to me that the single women I personally know tend to group together in person with friends more than seeking online support (although this kind of support is definitely present if you're looking for it). And they tend to be upset more because of too much attention (of the negative variety) than too little.

It may be that bitter single men only notice other bitter single men because of that strange need to be able to say to another person, "I know, right?"


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12 Sep 2014, 2:54 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Feminists?


That's curious. I get called a feminist all the time, but it's usually when I'm in an argument with someone, after I've revealed I have a boyfriend. For to be explaining please?


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12 Sep 2014, 3:23 pm

SignOfLazarus wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Feminists?


That's curious. I get called a feminist all the time, but it's usually when I'm in an argument with someone, after I've revealed I have a boyfriend. For to be explaining please?


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12 Sep 2014, 4:58 pm

I think they go to the beauty shop.



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12 Sep 2014, 5:54 pm

I tend to avoid bitter and resentful people, whatever gender.

But then again that is what most sane people would do, which is why they continue to be bitter and resentful.



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12 Sep 2014, 7:54 pm

SignOfLazarus wrote:

That's curious. I get called a feminist all the time, but it's usually when I'm in an argument with someone, after I've revealed I have a boyfriend. For to be explaining please?


because feminist women ''love''the L and D forum...



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12 Sep 2014, 8:17 pm

I don't see anything enviable about talking about "how terrible women are". Single ladies do clique with each other, even if you don't see it in real life that's the basis for a lot of romantic comedies. Sex and the City is about a highly glamorized single lady clique group



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12 Sep 2014, 8:22 pm

At the bar I dance at that includes several hundred people participating at a time, when busy, there are big groups of women who dance together who avoid all advances from men. I dance with everyone, so I'm never a real threat. But, no, they are not bitter at all, and in fact their friends that are girls substitute as surrogate boyfriends, if you will, as they bump and grind each other instead.

People, in general, like to have fun, and the days of slow dancing at the bar when the whole floor is coupling up is far, far far, in the distant past for modern electronic music and dance in our current culture, where women are much more independent, than before, even potentially more independent then the males, getting frustrated as the women are having a great time together and they often do not let the males in their 'social circle'.


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12 Sep 2014, 8:35 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
I tend to avoid bitter and resentful people, whatever gender.

But then again that is what most sane people would do, which is why they continue to be bitter and resentful.


I've never had a problem with women, is probably why I support feminism. I would much rather have a strong independent woman in my company to help me than one who was dependent on me. And no, I do not really know any women who are part of an actual movement in real life; women are getting ahead of men for one simple reason in my mind; they now, generally speaking, have a more balanced nature of masculine and feminine traits, whereas men for the most part are still homophobic anytime they see a man do something stereotypical feminine. Power is in grace, as power is in working with gravity not against it; simple law of the Universe as well.

People are amusing at times; they will do the 'craziest' things to be accepted; even literally fight the laws of gravity in fighting graceful moves to be a 'rugged man'.

Yes, there's more overall body strength involved in Ballet than Boxing. It's a whole body exercise, not a limited one of punches and jabs. Funny how people cannot see the obvious 'secrets' in life. :)


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12 Sep 2014, 8:47 pm

Dox47 wrote:
SignOfLazarus wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Feminists?


That's curious. I get called a feminist all the time, but it's usually when I'm in an argument with someone, after I've revealed I have a boyfriend. For to be explaining please?


Sorry, I forgot to include this image:

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Helpful, thank you.
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12 Sep 2014, 10:30 pm

Perhaps it's not a phenomenon in Australia, thou we do have men's groups.

A friend of mine belonged to one such group, and they can be bitter, but not about women, more about the modern culture that has changed the socialization of men. If you read the book, 'Iron John,' you'll understand more of why, but I'll try to give a brief, albeit way incomplete, explanation.

In older days, pre and post tribal, men worked in the fields alongside their sons and often their daughters. They had a connection with the family and also the community that doesn't exist now. With the industrial revolution, men left home and worked in the factories all day. For the wives and children, they had much less of an idea what Dad was doing. He would come home, eat his supper and go to bed. Disconnect 1.

Along with this, there grew suspicion about what else Dad might be up to, out of sight of the family. This particular disconnect created a divide between men and their families.

The turn away from tribalism also changed a lot of the rituals that men went through, to become recognized as men, which now-a-days is reflected in the rituals amongst youth in trying to find their manhood. These days, manhood is often a peer validation thing rather than a tribal or elder thing. Disconnection 3.

There's none, or little, anger against women in the above, and is only a part of the purpose behind men's groups in Australia.

What I've tried to explain briefly is quite inadequate, and better explained in books like Iron John, or books by Steve Biddulph.


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16 Sep 2014, 2:12 am

Dox47 wrote:
Feminists?
:lol:


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