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02 Jan 2016, 3:18 pm

Im Aspie and notice all the others have ambitions, want success and social recognition, like earning lot of money, have a high hierachic position in a company, get promoted, show a nice car or jewels, be proud of things.

I have NEVER had these kind of ambitions and it is a source of integration problem for me.

To give an example, even when I won a medal in Gymnastic (I didn't do on purpose), I gave it back saying: "no thank you" and "it is useless" (now I know: not good to say that...) I always escape all social recognitions, it has no meaning for me but it seams so vital for others.

I would like to know if this is a common trait by Aspies / if yes, how they deal with it.



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02 Jan 2016, 7:27 pm

Even though you did intentionally win the medal it was a recognition of your gymnastic accomplishments. Social recognition might have happened because you won the medal but that is not why you won it.


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02 Jan 2016, 9:47 pm

I have some of this, but near as much as most NT's I've come across. I will say that I tried very hard to be successful in selling my art, but it didn't work. I found this very disappointing, and it made me feel low self esteem for a while, but eventually I have come to expect this. I think the lack of success was only partly due to my AS. It was also due to the fact that I have no connections, and art is such a luxury item and the economy sucks at this time.


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03 Jan 2016, 1:22 am

I relate to you OP. I was born with disabilities in addition to my Aspergers that make it hard for me to achieve success & I've always been in my own world.


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03 Jan 2016, 5:16 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Even though you did intentionally win the medal it was a recognition of your gymnastic accomplishments. Social recognition might have happened because you won the medal but that is not why you won it.


Thank you. This helps me a lot.
I will try to think "I achieve my objectives and I am happy when I achieve them".
If others recognise the result for another purpose than mine, or for other interests, I feel misunderstood but: At least our different objectives must join somewhere in the result as they recognise it, and this is integration, dot :o).



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03 Jan 2016, 5:35 am

nick007 wrote:
I relate to you OP. I was born with disabilities in addition to my Aspergers that make it hard for me to achieve success & I've always been in my own world.


I noticed that when I try to help people within the limits of my abilities (nobody is able to do everything),
it always brings little or big social success.

Our society is very competitive and help is a rare and demanded value.

And ironic: The more you are disabled and in your own world, the more your help will be appreciated and impress, because surprising!



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03 Jan 2016, 5:40 am

czarsmom wrote:
I have some of this, but near as much as most NT's I've come across. I will say that I tried very hard to be successful in selling my art, but it didn't work. I found this very disappointing, and it made me feel low self esteem for a while, but eventually I have come to expect this. I think the lack of success was only partly due to my AS. It was also due to the fact that I have no connections, and art is such a luxury item and the economy sucks at this time.


I love your avatar, did you paint it?
Yes art is difficult. So many great artists live in a poor condition and have to wait more than hundreed years... to "sell" their art to big prices.
I thing the price people give for what you do, doesn't change the value of what you do.



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03 Jan 2016, 11:34 am

Yes I did. But I changed it for security purposes. At any rate I will be showing lots of my art on my blog. I hear Van Gogh never sold a single painting while he was on this earth. Thank you for your kind support. :)


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03 Jan 2016, 10:22 pm

LaetiBlabla wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Even though you did intentionally win the medal it was a recognition of your gymnastic accomplishments. Social recognition might have happened because you won the medal but that is not why you won it.


Thank you. This helps me a lot.
I will try to think "I achieve my objectives and I am happy when I achieve them".
If others recognise the result for another purpose than mine, or for other interests, I feel misunderstood but: At least our different objectives must join somewhere in the result as they recognise it, and this is integration, dot :o).


You are welcome. Congratulations on your gymnastic achievments.


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04 Jan 2016, 2:35 pm

I think it is simply a matter of what you value, and what effort you have to put forth.

For instance, when I was in school I was often recognized for academic achievement. However, since I put no effort into doing well it was meaningless when I was recognized for doing well.

Similarly, in my high school class I was voted most talented (there were only 80 of us). Senior year I wanted so badly to win the English Award because I was trying so hard with my creative writing. I won the Art Award instead and my friend won the English Award. I didn't really care about the Art Award because I didn't feel like my art was particularly all that good. My writing, on the other hand, was very important to me.

So I was recognized, but for something that really didn't take a lot of effort. I am pretty much indifferent when people recognize me for things that I don't think are noteworthy.

Maybe that's similar to your situation.



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04 Jan 2016, 2:59 pm

looniverse wrote:
I think it is simply a matter of what you value, and what effort you have to put forth.

So I was recognized, but for something that really didn't take a lot of effort. I am pretty much indifferent when people recognize me for things that I don't think are noteworthy.

Maybe that's similar to your situation.


Thank you. It's also this, indeed. I often do things just because it's my passion, I like it and I have fun with it. I don't feel I am making any "effort", so i feel a bit confused receiving congratulations for having had a lot of fun in doing something...
But maybee, the best things you do is when you have passion and love what you do, not necessarily when you make a lot of efforts.



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06 Jan 2016, 1:51 am

I'm a bit frightened of the idea of getting approval, because I know what its like to go a long time without others approval particularly from peers.

I would say that approval is the way society functions, you can't simply ignore that because of your own personal feelings, I say go through the motions even if you don't feel it authentically.


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