NK declares China an enemy, threatens "nuclear storm"

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31 Mar 2016, 9:43 pm

https://www.dailynk.com/english/read.ph ... &num=13836

If North Korea are serious about this, I can almost guarantee that China will squash them like a fly.


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31 Mar 2016, 9:51 pm

China finally going to pull the plug that has been keeping them going?


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31 Mar 2016, 9:55 pm

xenocity wrote:
China finally going to pull the plug that has been keeping them going?

How does China rely on North Korea?


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31 Mar 2016, 10:43 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
China finally going to pull the plug that has been keeping them going?

How does China rely on North Korea?

It's the other way around.
China has been propping up NK.


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01 Apr 2016, 4:15 am

xenocity wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
China finally going to pull the plug that has been keeping them going?

How does China rely on North Korea?

It's the other way around.
China has been propping up NK.

My bad, I misunderstood your phrasing. But yeah, I'm a little surprised myself that NK is threatening the one country that's been on their side.


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01 Apr 2016, 5:42 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
My bad, I misunderstood your phrasing. But yeah, I'm a little surprised myself that NK is threatening the one country that's been on their side.


Thing is, I believe the PRC has been backing away from North Korea quite a bit compared to decades gone by.

They're still an ally, but not nearly to the extent that they were.



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01 Apr 2016, 7:51 am

Theyve been NK's ally,but ever since the Gorbechev era China has been trying behind the scenes to coach NK to liberalize, and become more captitalistic (China doesnt want NK society to collapse and to send millions of starving refugees into China). But NK has balked at any change.



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01 Apr 2016, 8:34 am

I expect nothing more than empty threats from that arrogant, ignorant, impotent butterball, Kim Jong Un.


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01 Apr 2016, 8:40 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Theyve been NK's ally,but ever since the Gorbechev era China has been trying behind the scenes to coach NK to liberalize, and become more captitalistic (China doesnt want NK society to collapse and to send millions of starving refugees into China). But NK has balked at any change.


I believe things are quetly changing in the country. Technology has got in, and people are able to see what the outside world might be like.



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04 Apr 2016, 1:52 am

It looks like North Korea is backstabbing China in the back. After all, it was the Soviet Union and China providing all the manpower and material North Korea needed in the Korean War(1950-1953). Without China, North Korea would not exist.China has always thought of North Korea a thorn on its side.



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04 Apr 2016, 2:09 am

Wonder who really controls the nukes in North Korea, the Kim regime does not seem stable. Un has ballooned up over 300lbs, has gout, walks with a cane all at age 33.



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04 Apr 2016, 2:13 am

Jacoby wrote:
Wonder who really controls the nukes in North Korea, the Kim regime does not seem stable. Un has ballooned up over 300lbs, has gout, walks with a cane all at age 33.



Kim Jong Il does. He does not trust anyone in his General Staff. He has a track record of shooting military staff and members of his own family because of his schizophrenia. Anyone who speaks up is automatically shot. He must videotapes the executions for his own amusement.



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05 Apr 2016, 6:36 pm

Just pure rhetoric from a regime that brainwashes its population into believing that there are enemies at its borders threatening to invade it, so the population can sacrifice itself including going without food and working itself to death, to enable the criminal thugs running the country, to continue enjoying the trappings of power including caviar and swiz cheese. The irony is both parties die early. The population dies of starvation while the leaders die of gluttony (doesn't matter if it's Kim Jong II or some other crazed leader the regime props up).



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06 Apr 2016, 1:35 am

Having studied North Korea, it is their policy to take South Korea by force and by any means necessary. This is why they have 1.2 million troops stationed at the border. The troops are well fed and armed though such an offensive will have an maximum lifetime of a week. But they will use NBC warfare in a hypothetical war. In Seoul, they have the best and largest civil defense in the world because the citizens of that city will be the number one target of any such attack. The US/UN force have approximately 28,000 troops there. As of 2013, South Korea has 9,495,000 active, reserve, and paramilitary personnel, it is the largest military organization on Earth. This number represents nearly 40% of the population



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07 Apr 2016, 11:43 am

Insanity if hereditary in the Kim Klan.


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07 Apr 2016, 1:28 pm

I think Kim's million man army would probably look a lot like Saddam's million man army, I'm not convinced they would just lay down their weapons faced with superior American and SK troops. The x-factor is the nukes of course but also the fact that North Korea has enough artillery pointed at Seoul to flatten it. It's really not a war we should want to fight, it would be short but potentially extremely bloody. Just wait them out since I do not believe that Kim Jong-Un will be able win his game of thrones forever, he'll be overthrown eventually but the question is would the person replacing him be any better?

It's an interesting situation as Kim was western educated, he saw democracy in action first hand in Switzerland, he's given a little lip service to the market reforms that China has made but he seems like he's struggling to maintain control thus the high profile executions.