The Trump Effect

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This topic in itself has little substance but I really want to know why you guys are so obsessed with filling this entire forum with Trump threads when you're voting 3rd party or for Hillary Clinton. Don't you want to have some productive discussion about your candidates?

I don't want to stereotype us as a group but I was under the impression several intellects fell under the spectrum. The last few weeks have led me to believe otherwise.

Is this the Trump effect? Are you becoming more daft from your own intolerance born from your own supposed large compass of tolerance?

Why are there no Hillary topics? Is she not interesting enough to talk about? Come on!
For the record, my views are pretty cemented at this point and regulars will know what they are.
But even as a Trump sympathiser I am beginning to tire of this Trump madness.
Can't you guys produce something substantial about your Queen? It would be nice to discuss to the merits of them, even if I would disagree with most. It would go a long way to convert a lot of the anti establishment sentiment currently brooding in this subsection.

The Trump Effect is clearly alive and well and it's doing some moderates and democrats a large disservice.
Perhaps I'm wrong...but a candidate worth talking about surely should've had at least an equal amount of discussion as their opponent.

IRL, I know exactly one enthusiastic HRC supporter, a 50ish lesbian doctor I work with, everyone else I know here in Seattle is resigned to voting for her out of fear of Trump (IMHO, they'd say the same thing of any GOP candidate, these are people who claimed they'd move to Canada if Romney were elected).

I think it lies within how Trump stands out in a particularly negative way from other currently in-the-limelight politicians. Of course, politicians do, in general, have a polarising reputation, but in Trump's case, we have someone who is viewed extremely negatively by the press and the public. This year, we have a line-up of completely new major presidential candidates; this means an immense amount of public attention and a less obvious result. It's simply not possible now to read the news and not find stuff about them. Mind you, the election is only two weeks away so the coverage will be extra huge, of course.

Over on Facebook I know quite a few libertarians, conservatives, Objectivists, and so on – and most of them pretty much quit posting political stuff after the primaries. The feeling being, and some stated this explicitly: 'We no longer have a horse in this race. Both candidates are awful, but there's nothing more to be done about it, so we may as well focus on our own lives, jobs, families, hobbies.'

Perhaps the same thing happened here.

Well, of course...

I prefer Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump because she:

- Is adamantly pro-choice
- Wants to commit the United States to combat climate change
- Wants to preserve the PPACA, which has probably already saved thousands - nay, tens of thousands - of lives.
- Defends free trade, which is the best poverty-reducing policy in the history of mankind
- Wants to improve the conditions for those on the autistic spectrum wrt. health care, education and employment
- Has a (relatively) fiscally sound policy platform

I have reservations about Clinton because she:
- Has been dragging her feet on criminal justice reform
- Doesn't want to legalize marijuana
- Might be backing out of the TTIP
- Is in favor of the death penalty

... Is that substantial enough for you?

Up here in Canada we had a mayor of one of our major cities, Toronto. Rob Ford who is now deceased garnered a lot of attention mostly because his life was a noble train wreck. He had issues. And watching him was like watching a tragic comedy. I think the same is the case with Trump. Eventually he will go completely off the rails. It's ugly, but you have to look.

I know many Democrats, and I have never heard any of them say that they would "move to Canada" if Romney won (or McCain either, though many did say that about W). But in this election even many Repubs fear the GOP candidate.

If truth be known I'm voting for party this time around rather than candidate and it's because of SCJOTUS. So I'm not really voting for any candidate in particular. The one I would vote for isn't running. I don't agree much with who is but I really disagree with a lot of the Republican agenda. I'm what I would call a progressive conservative socialist which means I'm more wary of debt than traditional socialists yet I'm not as control freaky as most conservatives. I believe socialism should be the primary focus of government.

As much as i hate the way the american presidential campaign works; "she's not trump" really is a good argument to vote for hillary; and indeed, she has sound points as well.

Her perhaps wanting out of TTiP isnt a strong reservation against hillary anymore really; in Europe, resistance against that is also growing, some members have veto'd the current draft already

No one genuinely supports Hillary just Trump haters, I've said this for a while and nothing I've seen or heard has changed this view. Most people in my life are voting for Trump even of the black and hispanics I know, I've been surprised at some people but the hatred for Hillary is palpable who no one likes or is willing to defend. The only person I know that is voting for Hillary is only doing so because he's afraid of Trump and what the market will do after he's elected.

The thing I dislike about HRC is she does seem careless from time to time. However, I dislike what Republicans want more since I am pro choice and equality therefore I vote Democrat.

Politics is like making sausage, most people don't want to know the gory details of what went into making it.

But, if you really want to get things done, you do have to make compromises that for whatever reason, people have trouble accepting. The idea that you can bully other people and always win is pure fantasy.

I've talked to a lot of people who get stuck because they can't compromise--they need to do things a particular way, and that just can't happen.

If you watch CNN or MSNBC Trump scandals take up a very large amount of the time. Even CNN knows that people like juicy scandals more than they like hearing about policy. I think people are just talking primarily about what is being reported on major news channels.

I find it very reassuring that not everyone who is going to vote for Clinton actually personally likes her. Hillary supporters aren't bending over backwards to defend her every action nor should they. They admit that she makes mistakes. She doesn't pretend to be a false prophet like Trump.

I have been quite surprised with the amount of black people I've spoken to, who have said they're voting for Trump----the consensus being that they want the borders closed, cuz they're sick of Mexicans taking jobs away from them, and they're scared that Arabs are gonna blow-up the place.

Also, they REALLY don't like Hillary----they think she's playing them.

And yet Trump would play them so much more. Seems a bit self loathing since Trump's Pa is a dyed in the wool bigot, so much so even Woody Guthrie wrote a poem about how loathsome Old Man Trump was. If I was black I would be dead set against a Trump presidency. Same if I were any ethnicity other than WASP.

I know it's not what you meant, but I think this suggests that WASPs are intrinsically OK with seeing racism and bigotry aimed at others. Only racist bigot WASPs would countenance the vile sentiments coming from Trump. There are plenty of WASPs who find Trump's attitudes to be thoroughly deplorable.