"OK to be a nationalist" thread.

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The guy said he was depressed then had his thread locked and was banned? I think mods ought to put their own biased and misguided politics aside when dealing with depressed people who are on the spectrum. And by the way, being against multiCULTURALism is not racist. The clue is in the word.

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^^^ OP: It's against the rules to discuss a locked thread, that is why this one was locked.

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Walrus has allowed this thread as per his comment

I'd be a little leery if somebody would recommend I read a "Europe-first" sort of website. Which speaks of things like "mongrelization" and "racial purity."

Or if somebody speaks of the "white race" as being like some like-minded ethnic group, without realizing that it is obvious that "white people" are made up of many ethnic groups---some quite opposed to each other.

"My country is the greatest country in the world! (Acceptable.)

"My race is the greatest race in the world!" (Unacceptable.)

We tolerate the first, but condemn the second, when both are equally toxic perspectives, which lead to destruction, violence and death.

Nationalism is inherently racist, as it has always called into play the idea that there can be only one narrow definition of a true citizen, and that definition is always defined by a specific race, whether expressed or implied by calling it a "Culture".

Nationalism is also and extreme form of Identity Politics, wherein all identities may be acknowledged as equal, one specific identity is declared "more equal" than any others.

Nationalism sucks, whether Fascist, Socialist or blatantly racist.

Anybody who is a "Holocaust Denier" just hasn't had any exposure to the facts----or is totally blind when the facts are presented to them.

Why they are blind in this way is unknown.

If one looks at pictures of the Holocaust, one knows that they cannot be "faked."

A Comparison of Patriotism vs. Nationalism:

Patriotism: "My country can always do better."
Nationalism: "My country is already the best."

Patriotism: "My country, right or wrong!"
Nationalism: "My country; love it or leave it!"

Patriotism: A sense of personal identification with the country.
Nationalism: A sense of personal identification with the government.

Patriotism: Critical of the country whenever necessary.
Nationalism: Silences the critics whenever possible.

Patriotism: Diversity is the foundation of our existence, and must be encouraged.
Nationalism: Diversity is the bane of our existence, and must be eliminated.

Patriotism: Equality, Liberty, and Justice for All.
Nationalism: Equality, Liberty, and Justice for the Privileged Few.

Patriotism: Fighting Nazis.
Nationalism: Being Nazis.

Patriotism: Freedom of Press, Speech, and Peaceful Assembly.
Nationalism: Propaganda, Censorship, and Harassment.

Patriotism: Government by consent of the governed.
Nationalism: Government by force and decree of those who govern.

Patriotism: Hiring and promotion based solely on ability.
Nationalism: Hiring and promotion based on race and gender.

Patriotism: Learning from our history and the history of others.
Nationalism: Teaching our version of history to others.

Patriotism: Pride in who you are.
Nationalism: Pride in who you are not.

Patriotism: Special concern for the well-being of the citizenry.
Nationalism: Special concern for the well-being of the leadership.

Patriotism: Upholding the right of others to disagree with authority.
Nationalism: Equating disagreement with treachery, disloyalty, and moral decay.

Patriotism: Willingness to sacrifice oneself to promote the country's good.
Nationalism: Willingness to sacrifice others to promote one's own self-interest.

America's problems aren't as much about Left vs. Right as they are about Patriotism vs. Nationalism.

^^^ That's a very good summary.

And apparently it's racist to tell the truth as one of the 'rules' was it's racist to talk about intentional/forced mass immigration when Tony Blair's speech writer said Labour were carrying out deliberate policies to "rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date" and to "make the UK truly multicultural".

The kid just butted in...

First, make enough posts (empty of content is fine, The Games forum is your friend) to seem genuine. Post some actual stuff too, so people would get used to seeing you around. Watch carefully for the right... people and their weaknesses and by all means, cater to them in abundance. Don't be afraid to get that nose brown.

Then you can get away with murder, you silly sod, stuff that would make your polite racism look like a Menuet

What kid? That's the mystery.

Fnord's list is pretty neat. Sums up my idea of Conservativism and Patriotism--I like the patriotic idea.

JohnPowell's point about taking it easy on depressed guys is probably worth listening to, also. Granted, these are hot-button topics but kindness is in season. (I say that but am not a good example.)

And BenderRodriguez, that was a brutally hilarious post.