Many US Citizens Do Not Want Biden or Trump in 2024

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28 Jul 2022, 1:35 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/28/biden-trump-2024-president-election-poll

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28 Jul 2022, 2:22 pm

People over the age of 75 shouldn't be president but Biden is better than having Trump in office.

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28 Jul 2022, 3:29 pm

League_Girl wrote:

...but Biden is better than having Trump in office.

I'll admit to being curious about whether the Forward Party will become a viable alternative.

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28 Jul 2022, 3:30 pm

Wouldn't that be swell!

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28 Jul 2022, 3:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Wouldn't that be swell?

I'm kind of curious about that, too.

But from some of the names involved, I am cautiously optimistic.

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28 Jul 2022, 7:24 pm

Yeah, we'll have DeSantis instead. :cheers:

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28 Jul 2022, 10:32 pm

I miss the Trump days.

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29 Jul 2022, 5:47 am

CockneyRebel wrote:

I miss the Trump days.

So will the left during the DeSantis administration.
:lol:

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29 Jul 2022, 7:12 am

There's still Bernie Sanders

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29 Jul 2022, 8:05 am

He’ll be what, 90 by then?

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29 Jul 2022, 11:01 am

"In John's revelation, the first horseman rides on a white horse, carries a bow, and is given a crown – he rides forward as a figure of Conquest,[2][3] perhaps invoking Pestilence, Christ, or the Antichrist. The second carries a sword and rides a red horse and is the creator of (civil) War, conflict and strife.[4] The third, a food-merchant riding upon a black horse, symbolizes Famine. He carries The Scales.[5] The fourth and final horse is pale, and upon it rides Death, accompanied by Hades.[6] "They were given authority over a quarter of the earth, to kill with sword, famine, and plague, and by means of the beasts of the earth."[7]"

-From Wiki

Just A Passage Out of One Book
That Describes Eras of Humanity
Getting Out of Balance With Nature

AS Humanity Pays the Basic Karma
of Action and Consequence Such As

Killing Off Two-Thirds of Wild Life in the
Last 50 Years As Yes That Science May Be
Empirically Measured By Observation Now;

True, considering That; Not too Hard to See
the Prediction of 1 in 8 Plant and Animal Species

Going away in the coming Decades Yet Not Without

The Consequences of Humans Living Out of Balance With

Nature Coming in Metaphors actually Real when Pandemics,
Wars, Famine, And Death Predictably Hold Hands ThiS Way

As Nature
Culls Within
Naturally No Matter
How Much Humans
Say They Rule the World Hehe;
Although, It's Not Really Funny
Considering the Big Death Part of All of This
As Some Experts Consider Famine Still Coming

to Be A Potentially Even Greater Killer than the Pandemic For Real;

It's Not Just That Folks Don't Want Biden and Trump in the United States;

They Want Someone With A Magic Pill That Will Make All the Higher Prices of Gasoline

And Food And Other Stuff to Go Away; Meanwhile, Folks in Other Countries Are More

Likely to actually
Starve to Death

Yet Of Course
As Plus 1 MiLLioN
Deaths Do Still Show
Still at 300 A Day Or So
From the Ongoing Pandemic Now
That is Likely Gonna Be Our New 'EnDemic Normal'

So It's Either Freedom or Safety and A Fine Balance,

A Mix For US to Decide What We Want to Happen Now;

Will Any New Politician

Solve the Problems

Humans Have By
Shooting themselves in the Foot;

In terms of Imprisoning Wild Animals, Domesticating
Them As Slaves for Food And Encroaching on Their Freedoms
This Way; Well Yes, What Ya Get is Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Monkey Pox,
And So Much More; No REAL FREE RiDE for Enslaving and Encroaching on the

Habitats of Other
Wild Life That Make
Our Entire Circle of
Life Possible; Yes, Including Us

As Part of the Whole Big Old and Still New Deal; Yes,

We Tend to Be Selfish in the United States in Terms of
Protecting Each Other and the Rest of Nature too AS Whole;

It's What Instant Gratification and Over-Abundance Naturally Brings

to An Animal 'Normally' Adapted

Well to Only Intermittent

Gratification New Now;

Either We Do it Voluntarily

Or Nature Imposes All Her Natural

Penalties in Karma Next As Whoever Wrote the Human Nature Story

In Terms of Ghost Authors in One Biblical Passage Above Just

Noticed Patterns/HiStory of Human Failures Out of Balance
With Nature

Repeating
Those Falls

From Grace of
Balance With Nature Once Again;

Once Folks Figure out Nature is THE ALL
Real God to Respect and Worship for Our

Very Existence On this Only Planet We aRe
Possibly Evolved to Survive and Actually Thrive on Now,

It Won't Matter So Much Who the Leaders Are As it really Doesn't Matter that Much

NoW as Long as We the People Get Evolved Enough NOW to Do What it takes to
Actually Survive

into the Future;

Problem again is
Instant Gratification;

The Trap is SeT; Our

Experiment On Ourselves
as Guinea Pigs continues For
ALL to

Watch

And
Actually Do too...

Life is Either Feast or Famine;

Yet At Best it is Actually Balancing Grace
Living Naked Enough Whole Complete REAL

Like the Rest of Wild-Life Before We Got Clothed in Lies

Of Domestication

iN Instant

Gratification

Out of Balance
With Nature For Real;

No Matter who 'Runs,' We
Damned Sure Better Vote

For Someone Who Votes For
Nature if 'Those Folks' Who Wanna
Have Grandchildren and the such on the
Planet wanna imagine That reality continuing Then

FOR REAL;

IN NO WAY
SHAPE OR FORM
WILL TRUMP AND
SADLY EVEN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY AT LARGE WORK TO MAKE THIS
HAPPEN NOW; And as far as Other Options
For Parties; Humans Just Don't Have Literally the

Attention
Span for
Change
That Works
As Big As That...

Particularly when
it comes to Seeing
Reality as Large As
Nature Beyond Our Grasp
As Really 'God' Worth Respecting

And Living
in Balance
With Now;

Yet Never 'Mind,' i've
Got A Smart Phone
And Instant Gratification to Do;

Even A Standard Response When
You Try to Serve A Customer Service
Representative At their Desk; So Can And Will

We Change; i Surely Can and Will Do That Much iNDeed...
Not Counting on Any Politician, Priest, Pastor, Or Other Philosophy

To Actually Do
It as Long as
My Peace and Love Last;

Anyway, the Willingness Finally
For the Democrats to Come Together
For Funding to Help Reduce Human Impact on
The Environment Now Is Damn Sure Better than

'The Ostriches' Now With THeir Heads Still Stuck in
The Sand Still Waiting For 'Godot' To Solve All Their Problems...

Clue: We aRe
the Only Ones
Who Are Gonna Solve
Our Problems; All the Prayers in The
World Ain't Gonna Put Out All The Fires,
The Floods, The Storms, The Pandemics, The Wars,
The Famine, And Death Of Our of Existence for the
Human Species too...

However; Sadly,
The Passage Above

Allows the Core of the
Folks to Pray for the End of the World...

As A Continuing Self-Fulfilling Prophecy For Real...

Gotta Find a Way to Get THAT OLD Church Out of State
for Real That

Way if We Want
The Species of So
Many, Including Us,
to Continue on For A While Longer...

Biden is an Old Man; No Matter What
Trump's Age is; He is A Danger to the Survival oF All FOR REAL...

i'm Not So Selfish, Not to Vote For Someone Who Votes For Long Term Survival

Far After
i Am gone...

Meanwhile, It'S Heaven
FoR Me; i Ain't Got No
Directly Impacting Personal
Dogs and Ponies in this SHow

For Now
At Least...

As At Least We aRe
Gonna Have Some Kind
of Food and Shelter to Do
For Basic Subsistence At Least...

That's Been A Main Dream for
Every Creature to Exist STill Now...
It's A Dream that has come True
for Many of US with no Longer
Term Guarantees

Now...
For Real...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse

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29 Jul 2022, 1:30 pm

League_Girl wrote:

People over the age of 75 shouldn't be president but Biden is better than having Trump in office.

You seriously think Biden is better than Trump even with Biden's bumbles!?!?!? Its clear that Biden was just an old-grandpa puppet to "have anyone but Trump for President." How is it going now, particularly with Bidenflation for example?
While Trump may have had some bias against disabled, I saw for myself that his policies on the economy, the border (aside from the disability bias in legal immigration), have worked and made America prosper free and safe!
One thing for certian is that career politicians screw up the country. That includes many old politicians like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. They spent many decades in politics, to the benefit of rich lobbyists.
I've been considering DeSantis for 2024 since not only he is younger, but also he has actually done some good for the disabled (and autism) community like ban most use of shackles and restraints in Florida schools and centers as well as putting more state money in HCBS. Unlike Trump, DeSantis has served in the Navy. So if DeSantis becomes President a future new navy ship, aircraft carrier, or submarine can be named after him (USS Ron DeSantis). I do also want him to serve a 2nd term as Governor of Florida. Trump will probably be in better shape at 78 than Biden was. DeSantis would make a great successor to Trump in 2028.

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29 Jul 2022, 1:46 pm

I guess you want a dictator for President, then?

I guess you want a "secret police" society which has coups every so often? Like maybe Belarus, or some African or Asian countries?

Biden cares more about the "average person" than Trump. Biden probably cares more about the average autistic person than Trump would.

Inflation was an inevitability, no matter who was or is President. Because of all the money that was put into the overall money supply of the nation owing to COVID.

Covidflation.

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29 Jul 2022, 1:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I guess you want a "secret police" society which has coups every so often? Like maybe Belarus, or some African or Asian countries?

Biden cares more about the "average person" than Trump. Biden probably cares more about the average autistic person than Trump would.

Oh please, NO politician at that level gives two rat’s asses about the “average person”. It’s about who gets what kind and how many table scraps tossed down to them. I’ve been called naive but I’ve never had any illusions about politicians.

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29 Jul 2022, 2:04 pm

I didn’t say he cares about the “average person.”

I said he cares more about them than Trump, who sets a pretty low bar for this.

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29 Jul 2022, 2:26 pm

Unlike Trump, Biden is a career politician who knows the importance of baby kissing and telling people what they want to hear. He’s literally gotten rich off of politics. He’s only cared about staying in office.

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