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24 Jun 2025, 4:42 pm

US CDC report shows no link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism

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The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

The report was posted on the agency's website on Tuesday, along with some presentations and the final agenda of the meeting, which is scheduled for June 25 and 26.


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26 Jun 2025, 7:12 pm

Anti vaxxers and reason are like oil and water.



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26 Jun 2025, 9:06 pm

Hmmmmm, interesting. The CDC also voted to STOP referring flu vaccines containing thimerosal.

CDC Vaccine Advisers Vote to Stop Recommending Flu Shots That Contain Thimerosal

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In a series of votes today, the CDC’s new vaccine advisory committee voted to no longer recommend flu vaccines that contain thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative linked to neurodevelopmental disorders.


A RFK Jr rebuttal of the Guardian's assertion that thimerosal is safe.

RFK Jr. Slams The Guardian for False Claims About Thimerosal in Vaccines
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In conformance with the pharma-financed mainstream media’s mantric ritual of dutifully parroting the propaganda tropes spoon-fed them by vaccine makers and their captive regulators, @guardian on Friday pronounced thimerosal, the ethylmercury-based vaccine preservative, “safe.”

Opining under the headline, “CDC vaccine panel to review ingredient RFK Jr has targeted for removal,” The Guardian authoritatively assures: “The preservative has been deemed safe.”

The Guardian did not bother to cite any peer-reviewed study.

Journalists don’t seem to read those anymore. Instead, it referenced a fact check website operated by the Pharma-funded American Academy of Pediatrics. @AmerAcadPeds likewise cites no peer-reviewed study to support this claim or its equally terse assertion that “Thimerosal has been removed from all routine childhood vaccines.”

This is another treadworn lie of the vaccine industry. There are high bolus doses of mercury in flu shots, which CDC recommends to pregnant women in any trimester of pregnancy and as a routine vaccine for children at six months and in every year of life.

Between conception and age 18, a compliant American child today could get a cumulative load of as much as 500 mcg of ethylmercury from multidose flu shots—nearly double of what they were once getting from all the childhood vaccines put together.

Now let’s look at The Guardian claim that thimerosal is safe.

A quick search at the National Library of Medicine’s PubMed and PubChem websites nets thousands of studies on search terms such as: mercury neurotoxicity, mercury and development, and mercury and brain, and hundreds that identify thimerosal as a potent neurotoxin, carcinogen, mutagen, and endocrine disruptor. There has never been a study that proves thimerosal safe.

In early 2001, Director of the FDA Office of Vaccine Research and Review, the late William Egan, admitted under oath before Congress that thimerosal’s safety had never been studied in human beings. [“Mr. Burton. ‘When was that? That was done in 1929. Let’s follow up on that. In 1929, they tested this on 27 people that were dying of meningitis. All of those people died of meningitis, so they said there was no correlation between their death and the mercury in the vaccines. That is the only test that’s ever been done on thimerosal that I know of. Can you think of any other?’ Mr. Egan. ‘No, in people, no. Except for accidental exposures over time.’”]

I leave it to the reader to speculate as to why CDC has not performed such studies in the intervening 24 years as it dosed hundreds of millions of American children and pregnant moms with mercury-laden flu shots. Furthermore, CDC has no existing guidelines for safe exposure to ethylmercury.

But let’s put all that peer-reviewed science aside and just look at what the government and the vaccine industry say about thimerosal. Thimerosal’s label advises against its use during pregnancy, pointing out that thimerosal has never been shown to be safe and that it causes mutations in mammals.

Thimerosal’s material safety data sheet (MSDS) acknowledges that thimerosal is “toxic,” has “Nervous System and Reproductive Effects,” and is “mutagenic in mammalian cells,” and that exposure to mercury in thimerosal “in utero and in children can cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment.”

The MSDS lists a grim inventory of dozens of other devastating injuries from thimerosal exposure.

In 2001, the National Institute for Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS) revised its thimerosal toxicity statement, warning that thimerosal is “toxic by ingestion and inhalation.”

The California EPA recognizes thimerosal as a reproductive toxicant in the clearest possible language: “Thimerosal dissociates in the body to ethyl mercury. The evidence for its reproductive toxicity includes severe mental retardation or malformations in human offspring who were poisoned when their mothers were exposed to ethyl mercury or thimerosal while pregnant, studies in animals demonstrating developmental toxicity after exposure to either ethyl mercury or thimerosal, and data showing interconversion to other forms of mercury that also clearly cause reproductive toxicity. The US EPA, the authoritative body relied on when mercury and mercury compounds were listed under California’s Proposition 65, currently identifies mercury and mercury compounds as causing reproductive toxicity.”

The amount of ethylmercury in a flu shot is 25,000 times EPA’s safety level for drinking water. Federal and state laws provide that whenever expired thimerosal vaccines are disposed of, they constitute a hazardous waste.

In 1998, FDA banned thimerosal in all over-the-counter products, ending its use in creams, eye medicine, and disinfectants like mercurochrome. It’s ironic that CDC still recommends its injection into babies.

A 2000 study by the National Research Council found that prenatal and infant mercury exposures cause multiple impacts to basic brain development by disrupting the division and migration of neuronal cells.

According to a National Toxicology Program PowerPoint presentation entitled “Comparative Toxicity of Ethyl and Methyl Mercury”: “Ethylmercury is a neurotoxin. Infants may be more susceptible than adults. Ethylmercury exposure from vaccines (added to dietary exposures to methylmercury) probably caused neurotoxic responses (likely subtle) in some children.”

A 2005 NIH study commissioned by FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) and performed by the National Toxicity Program (NTP) obliterated the industry claim that the ethylmercury in vaccines is less toxic than the heavily regulated methylmercury in fish, finding that the ethylmercury in thimerosal crosses the blood-brain barrier, lodges in the brain, and metabolizes into the most toxic form of mercury at double the rate of methylmercury. A subsequent study found that this highly toxic mercury remains in the brain for over 27 years.

A 2000 study in Neurotoxicology by Dr. William Slikker Jr., former head of the FDA’s National Center for Toxicological Research, directly foretold the results of a 2005 NIH-funded study, reporting that “Thimerosal (sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate) crosses the blood-brain and placental barriers and results in appreciable mercury content in tissues including brain.”

A 2017 NIH/CDC study links miscarriage to flu vaccines, particularly in the first trimester. Pregnant women vaccinated in the 2010/2011 and 2011/2012 flu seasons had two times greater odds of having a miscarriage within 28 days of receiving the vaccine.

In women who had received the H1N1 vaccine in the previous flu season, the odds of having a miscarriage within 28 days were 7.7 times greater than in women who did not receive a flu shot during their pregnancy.

These results are all the more significant when considering the fact that 7 of the 13 authors on the study had potential conflicts of interest such as having received research support from GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi, Pfizer, Merck, Novartis, Novavax, and other Big Pharma companies. One author, Frank DeStefano, was head of CDC’s immunization Safety Branch.

It’s noteworthy that these authors chose not to differentiate outcomes between thimerosal-containing flu shots and those that did not contain thimerosal. Around half the flu shots available at that time contained thimerosal.

On October 1, 2001, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences Immunization Safety Review Committee (ISR) issued a report concluding that the link between thimerosal and the rise of neurological injuries in children, including autism, is “biologically plausible,” and recommended the termination of all thimerosal-preserved vaccines.

An entire bibliography of pharmacokinetic studies by independent scientists, prestigious universities, and prominent research institutes published in high-gravitas journals, attest to thimerosal’s powerful neurotoxicity, and show that mercury tends to accumulate (and remain for considerable periods of time, years to decades) in the brains of primates and other animals after injection of thimerosal-containing vaccines.

It’s worth noting just one of these, a well-known Russian study from 1977 led by Dr. N.D. Mukhtarova, found that the majority of adults exposed to much lower concentrations of ethylmercury than those currently given to American children in vaccines were still suffering neurological injury and neuropathology several years after the exposure. These symptoms included decreased vision, hearing, memory, vertigo, and pain and numbness in the hands and feet. [“A total of 25 persons exposed to multiple effects of low ethyl-mercuric-chloride concentrations were subjected to a clinical examination in dynamics 1 ½ and 3 years after exposure to the compound. In investigations, clinico-physiological (EEG, Asschner-Dagnini reflexes, etc) and biochemical (catecholamines, sugar, mercury, DDT, DDE in the urine, etc) methods were employed. The pathology of the nervous system presented certain peculiarities by comparison with early period. In evidence were changes in the simpatico-adrenal system function, vascular lesions of the brain after the type of transient derangements of the cerebral circulation in the vertebro-basilar basin and angiosperms, diffuse changes in the nervous system with predominant involvement of the hypothalamic cerebral structures and in some cases psychiatric disturbances were on record. (p. 4–7).”]

The Guardian is blind and scientifically baseless repetition of empty industry assurances about thimerosal safety is yet another proof that journalists, and particularly science journalists, have now devolved into obsequious stenographers for Big Pharma.


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26 Jun 2025, 9:21 pm

‘Between a Shot and a Hard Place’: Autism, Vaccines and the Illusion of Certainty

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For years, the public has been told the vaccine-autism question is closed — case dismissed, myth debunked, science settled.

But when you peel back the headlines and actually examine the evidence, a startling truth emerges: We haven’t really studied the question at all. Not thoroughly. Not independently. Not with the urgency or integrity the issue demands.

The most commonly cited research? A handful of studies on the MMR vaccine and thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that was largely removed from childhood vaccines over two decades ago. That’s it.

No comprehensive analysis of the full vaccine schedule. No robust long-term comparisons between vaccinated and unvaccinated children. No meaningful investigation into the timing, combinations, or cumulative biological impact of dozens of shots now given in infancy and early childhood.

In other words, we haven’t looked. And yet we claim to know.

As a pediatrician with formal training in epidemiology, I approached the research with trust in the system and confidence in the data. But what I encountered while investigating for my book, “Between a Shot and a Hard Place,” left me stunned.

I expected to uncover a vast body of high-quality science — long-term trials, robust safety evaluations, rigorous comparisons between vaccinated and unvaccinated children.

Instead, I found a shallow pool of studies — many small, some outdated, most narrowly focused on just one vaccine. There was no comprehensive scrutiny of the full schedule, no real curiosity about timing, interactions, or vulnerable populations.

It wasn’t that the science had disproven a link — it’s that the science had barely asked the question. And that silence speaks volumes.

We cannot claim certainty where inquiry has been suppressed. We cannot dismiss parent experiences as coincidences when they follow the same patterns again and again.

And we cannot afford to confuse lack of evidence with evidence of safety. The stakes are too high — and our children deserve better.

The rise in autism, and the refusal to ask why

Autism now affects 1 in 31 children in the U.S., with rates as high as 1 in 12.5 boys in California. The increase in diagnoses isn’t just about better awareness — more children today are deeply affected, with significant developmental and intellectual disabilities.

This is a public health crisis. Yet somehow, asking whether vaccines might play a role is taboo.

Parents see the change firsthand. A baby babbles, smiles, and makes eye contact — then suddenly, after a routine doctor visit, that progress stops. Words disappear. Eye contact fades. Regression sets in.

These stories follow a pattern, and while correlation is not causation, patterns are where science begins. But instead of investigation, we dismiss these parents. Instead of listening, we silence them.

The research we’re missing

I combed through decades of vaccine safety literature. The results were sobering.

There are no long-term, large-scale studies comparing fully vaccinated children to unvaccinated ones using standardized developmental assessments.
No comprehensive evaluation exists of the full CDC vaccine schedule as administered in real life.
Most studies focus narrowly on the MMR vaccine or thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative largely removed from pediatric vaccines two decades ago.
Even the Institute of Medicine acknowledged in a 2013 report that the safety of the full childhood vaccine schedule — especially its timing, spacing, and cumulative exposure— had not been rigorously studied.

If vaccines were a pharmaceutical drug administered in 70 doses before kindergarten, with a suspected link to any chronic disease, we’d demand independent oversight, transparent trials, and long-term tracking.

But because these are vaccines, we declare the science “settled” without proving that it is.

Buried data, ignored whistleblowers

In my research, I came across the 2010 study by Gallagher and Goodman that found a higher autism risk in boys who received the hepatitis B vaccine at birth. It wasn’t widely publicized or followed up.

More disturbing was the 2014 revelation by William Thompson, Ph.D., a senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who admitted that his team omitted key data in a pivotal MMR-autism study — data that showed increased risk in African American boys. The study was never corrected.

How can we claim the science is settled if major findings are buried and whistleblowers ignored?

A path forward

The vaccine-autism debate won’t be resolved by censorship or soundbites. It will be resolved by doing the science we’ve avoided for too long.

If we truly care about children’s health — and public trust — then we must stop circling the same studies and start asking better questions. That means:

Funding large, independent, open-label prospective studies comparing fully vaccinated, partially vaccinated, and unvaccinated children — evaluating real-world vaccine schedules, not just single shots in isolation.
Studying combinations, timing, and aluminum adjuvants using updated toxicology, neurodevelopmental, and immunological tools.
Taking parental reports seriously as part of observational data—treating them not as “anecdotes to dismiss” but as signals to investigate.
Removing all financial conflicts of interest from vaccine safety research and creating full transparency for both data and funding sources.
This isn’t about choosing sides. It’s about restoring balance. We can demand rigorous, independent science without being “anti-vax.” We can protect children and respect parental intuition.

But we can’t do either if we keep denying the blind spots in our current system.

To move forward, we must be honest about what we know — and courageous enough to admit what we don’t. Because when it comes to our children’s long-term neurological health, vague reassurances are not enough.

No, the science is not settled. And it’s time we stopped saying it is.


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28 Aug 2025, 2:15 pm

You will likely get many times more mercury from eating a single serving of fish,



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29 Aug 2025, 3:48 pm

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You will likely get many times more mercury from eating a single serving of fish,


Yes, and that methylmercury can cross the blood-brain barrier(bbb) much easier. Thimerosal is ethyl mercury, which on its own can't cross the bbb as easily as methyl mercury.

The media and vaccine makers say this means that eating fish is much more dangerous than thimerosal because of this, but they purposely ignore certain factors that change this.

Thimerosal is not the only ingredient in the vaccines, and there is one common ingredient that completely changes both how easily in can cross the bbb and its toxicity to our brain and health.

Aluminum and ethyl mercury, when present together, can exhibit enhanced neurotoxic effects compared to exposure to either substance alone, a phenomenon known as synergism. Research suggests that combined exposure increases oxidative stress, leads to DNA damage, alters levels of neurotransmitters like dopamine, and promotes inflammation in cells. While both are neurotoxic metals, studies indicate that the presence of aluminum can exacerbate the negative effects of ethyl mercury on the central nervous system.


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02 Sep 2025, 10:21 am

Okay, so just be clear, once again we simply don't know one way or another because wild claims are being thrown out with no actual research being performed.



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Okay, so just be clear, once again we simply don't know one way or another because wild claims are being thrown out with no actual research being performed.


No.

Real research is being conducted and it does not support the claims that thimerasol magically causes autism.

Wakefield's hogwash was entirely created to push his own vaccine. It is truly sad that so many people bought into his lies.



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Okay, so just be clear, once again we simply don't know one way or another because wild claims are being thrown out with no actual research being performed.


Simply put, it seems from evidence that you are at least partially correct. We have no 100% verifiable proof from research either way. Historical evidence has shown that this is indeed because of a lack of actual, honest research being done on the subject.

Most of the studies that have been done were financed by the pharmaceutical industry and there have been found to be highly biased and sometimes manipulated towards desired results. There are stories of researchers manipulating, removing, and sometimes completely fabricating the raw data in order to achieve the desired results. Why scientists are willing to do this is simple, grant money.

If you want to do research it costs money, and that money almost always comes with expectations. Financiers want research to support their beliefs, and of course boost their profits. The scientists want their research to be published., publish or perish is the belief in academia. Publish gets them tenure and job security, not getting published can be the end of their career. As research journals are financed predominantly from corporate and government sectors, which directly influences what research gets funded and published.

There is a reason that many believe is why there aren't very many studies and research being done in areas such as this, and that is the financiers already know that honest results will not support their goals. There was allegedly a study done in the past that showed a strong link with thimerosal being a factor in neurological issues. According to people who allegedly saw the research, the results were so powerful that the study was buried from the public and the vaccine industry refused to finance any more research in that area of interest.

What little research that has been done since then has noticeably seemed to only focus on the effects of of a single vaccine and the individual injection, avoiding cumulative effect studies. There has been research into thimerosal and its effect of the body, but little to no honest and published research into the effect of thimerosal once it crosses the blood-brain barrier(bbb).

The research into vaccines has also almost completely avoided how the various vaccines and their ingredients interact with each other once introduced into our bodies. Research into how aluminum adjuvants in some vaccines interact with thimerosal in others to increase the ease in which the toxins can cross the bbb, and the differences in effect once they cross the barrier. We are told it takes days for mercury to clear from our bodies, yet we are never told it takes years to clear it from our brain. This is important as it is the inorganic mercury that crosses the bbb and potentially is a factor in the neurological issues being labelled as autism.

As for the idea that thimerosal alone is the 'cause' of autism, completely incorrect. Yes, there is strong evidence that it does play a significant role, but it alone couldn't be the culprit. The realistic theory has that thimerosal coupled with aluminum adjuvants create a situation that weakens the individuals bbb defenses and allows toxins to easily cross into the brain and cause disruptions to neurological development in young brains. Honest researchers have put forth theories that thimerosal 'opens the door' for the myriad of environmental toxins bombarding our bodies to cross the bbb and compounding the risk of neurological issues.

Personally I think that the blanket immunity the vaccine industry operates under needs to be ended, they need to once again face liability for their products. Only once the vaccine companies are held liable for damages done will we really begin to see any change in vaccine truth and transparency. Right now they face zero liability for any of their vaccines, even if they are manufactured incorrectly, poorly, and/or with dangerous ingredients. They are not required to tell us what ingredients are being used in the vaccines and the government never seemed to care to ask.



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08 Sep 2025, 12:18 pm

There are certain procedures that are supposed to be followed when conducting scientific research on human beings and approving medical treatments for human beings. I know this because I had to undergo training before I was allowed to conduct qualitative sociological study upon human beings for my master's degree.

When I was training to conduct research and then doing the research itself, I discovered that there are fundamental flaws in the peer reviewed research process. Not just for qualitative research, but for quantitative research as well. Yes, it is true, research is driven by funding. I myself did not need or receiving funding for the research I conducted. No one was interested in my "radical" views about autism and I was not willing to compromise. If I had been funded, that funding alone would have compromised my partiality.

However, the real problem in the peer review process is that the truly scientific, measurable studies are not being replicated.

If I wanted to know if thimerisol caused autism, I would have to inject it into 1000 pregnant mothers. 1000 babies. 1000 kids. 1000 adults. 1000 fathers before they were fathers. 1000 mothers before they were pregnant. I would have to find an equal number of controls in all of those studies who did not have any thimerisol. I would have to follow those people longitudinally and test them for symptoms of autism. THEN, I would have to have someone else do it. THEN another different person.

After all of this, we would have a pretty good idea.

It would be unethical to do this. There is no reason to use thimerisol if it is not absolutely needed for a vaccine. If it is suspected to cause problems, the best thing to do is just to stop using it. We will likely never know if it causes or contributes to anything at all.

But we can't pretend that the proper research has been done because it hasn't. Not just on this. On ANYTHING. Nothing is sound fact. Everything should be continuously tested and retested for scientific accuracy and greater understanding. It doesn't happen and that is egregious.



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08 Sep 2025, 12:28 pm

If thimerosal contributed to autism, then eating fish would be a far larger contributor.



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09 Sep 2025, 9:43 am

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If thimerosal contributed to autism, then eating fish would be a far larger contributor.


I'm not disagreeing with this.

There is a thing called spuriousness that can occur in scientific research. Correlation is not causation. There could be another, hidden factor that causes or influences the independent variable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spurious_relationship

Basically, there isn't a way to tell how much mercury is "okay." When RFK is speaking about thimerosal, his rough, boomer, layman way of speaking leads one to believe that being injected with any amount of thimerosal will turn a non-autistic person into an autist.

If you listen carefully, he is actually saying that there isn't a "safe" agreed upon level for mercury. You are right, mercury is in fish and lots of other things, including the red of old tattoo ink (not used in a long time). So in the absence of known data, it is better to take out the unnecessary ingredient. Just like how we now make red tattoo ink out of materials that do not involve mercury.

He is also saying that he will, viola! find "causes" of autism sometime this month. I'm interested to see what this will be. I don't think it's possible to find the "causes" so simply. But there is definitely more that we can all learn. I am not sure that all of the people who are being categorized as autistic really are autistic. I'm not sure people with Asperger's, PDD-NOS, ASD with ADHD, HFA (people who develop late as kids but can function as odd but regular adults later on), and non-verbal autistics are truly in the same broad group. Maybe that shouldn't be taken for granted. I'm all for going back to the drawing board, or maybe just going back to a past point and restarting from there.



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09 Sep 2025, 1:52 pm

RFK Jr also thinks that Lyme disease was created to be used as a bioweapon.

Nothing from his heroin addict mind should be taken seriously.



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09 Sep 2025, 11:23 pm

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If thimerosal contributed to autism, then eating fish would be a far larger contributor.




Yes, there is always a higher risk of getting mercury poisoning from contaminated fish, but the fish contains methyl mercury while thimerosal is ethyl mercury. each has a different chemical structure and affects the body somewhat differently. Each are introduced to the body differently which affects where and how the mercury is affecting the body.

In regards to autism and neurodevelopmental issues, it is long been believed that it is the mercury that crosses the blood-brain barrier that is the cause. The vaccine industry wants us to believe that due to the fact that the methyl mercury from fish stays in the body much longer than ethyl mercury (70 day half life for methyl and 3-7 days for ethyl), that ethyl mercury cannot be playing a part in causing neurological damage because it is cleared from the body so fast in comparison. In the body these rates are 100% true, but once they cross the bbb they are there indefinitely.

The vaccine industry wants to insist that because the ethyl mercury processes out of the body so quick that there is little to no risk of it crossing the bbb, their whole argument that thimerosal is safe is predicated on it. The problem with this is that it completely ignores the interactive affect that other ingredients from other vaccines can have with thimerosal that allows it to quickly and easily cross the bbb. Aluminum, from other vaccines, and mercury are known to have a synergistic neurotoxic effect that is more damaging to the bbb than exposure to either element alone.

The thimerosal and aluminum adjuvants in vaccines are administered in a similar fashion thus share a similar path to the brain. Methyl mercury from fish is introduced to our bodies in a completely different manner thus have a much different path through the body to the brain. The ethyl mercury, assisted by the aluminum, has a quicker and fairly direct path to the bbb and the brain. Methyl mercury is typically eaten, which means a very circuitous path it must go through before it can work its way to the bbb and brain.

What this suggests is that any toxic issues from vaccines would most likely be manifested in the brain while most of the methyl issues would likely manifest in organs such as the liver and kidneys. Perhaps the aluminum from the vaccines also interacts with the methyl mercury in our system and helps it get to the brain quicker, there has been no research in this area. There has been no research into the affect on our bodies of aluminum adjuvants and thimerosal in combination with each other either, even though their toxic synergy is well known in other areas of science.

As for what RFK Jr saying Lyme disease was created as a bioweapon, history has shown that this could be true. One only has to look in history to see countless times countless governments past and present to know this. Tuskegee syphilis study anyone? There are many who believe covid was created as a bioweapon as well. Who truly knows? There are countless twisted experiments such as these and worse performed without the knowledge or consent of the general public in general and/or certain sectors of humanity. The US military has been long known to use enlisted men as test subjects for whatever they wanted to test, the CIA and other global intelligence agencies also have a long history of abuse as well.

If you don't like RFK Jr I get it, in many ways he is an annoying and entitled jerk. On the flip side is that what he has been actually doing has been awesome for those in the world who are conscious of the toxic world that surrounds us because he is actually working to remove some of them. Fluoride in the water supply, gone. Big thank you for that health wise. Demanding that many toxic ingredients be removed from the food chain is also a huge victory for our health, even though some removal is taking months or more to implement. I myself think RFK Jr might be the only part of this government that is actually doing anything beneficial to and for the people. His voice always gets to me though, it's hard to listen to him speak for more than 5 minutes.


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10 Sep 2025, 12:04 am

Do you have any legitimate research citations to support those wild claims?



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10 Sep 2025, 11:18 pm

kokopelli wrote:
Do you have any legitimate research citations to support those wild claims?


Do you have any legitimate research to prove they are wild claims?


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