What if the old Gods are real?

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Given how screwed up our world is, and that the various myths and stories of the old non-Abrahamic deities around the world often portrayed the Gods and Goddesses as cruel, selfish, and vain, but also generous and protective of the mortals they favored...

It just seems to me that a universe ruled by many all-powerful beings who have serious but endearing character flaws and a carelessness for human life makes much more sense to me than one God claiming to be all-good and powerful (when he's clearly not given all the genocide and oppression done in his name).

The Old Gods of nearly every other culture were powerful, immortal, and demanded respect but they never pretended they were a force for absolute good because people in ancient times did were wiser than us and did not see the world in absolute black or white ways of thinking like we do today (thanks to Christianity's influence im sure).

They were kind of like our world leaders in many ways. Getting caught up in the affairs of the Gods was like getting caught up in political schemes and you could either gain favor of powerful allies who would reward you or make powerful enemies and suffer the consequences. But overall it was best to simply avoid the Gods and let them do their thing because they often caused trouble.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I like the idea of these old Gods being the true movers and shakers of our world better than the one born out of the Middle East by combining a minor war deity with a storm deity.

I like my Gods and Goddesses to be as messed up as the world itself is. Because I seriously doubt an all-loving merciful god who's allegedly right about everything would allow this world to be so terrible.

I may have developed a bit of contempt for wicca and neopaganism but I still feel that the old gods are real and influence the natural world more than we will ever know.

Hmmm, by chance do you do tarot cards too?

I reckon the Old Gods et al exist. I believe the Abrahamic faiths started off polytheist as well. The original 12 tribes of Israel seem to have had a couple of tribes that pushed a henotheistic belief in the One God of their tribe, but didn't initially reject the existence of other gods. The One God Only thing didn't come until several hundred years B.C.E. 2nd Temple Period.

The rest of the world was a mix of animist/polytheist/ancestralist etc.

The good thing about polytheism is that while different people fought about different things, they rarely, if ever, fought about religion.

Some might argue that one overall religion reduces conflict by fostering a more pervasive, inclusive community identity. But with Christians and Muslims killing each other over religion, Catholics and Protestants killing each other, Catholics burning heretics and Puritans hanging 'witches'... they find a way to kill each other. So no advantage.

At least with polytheism, there's not usually any heresy. They just chalk it up to 'different tribes, different gods'.

how does a human coming up with a god make the god real?

you'll laugh

the titanic, mr titanic and the titan sub
sometimes words are a dangerous play

In Greek mythology, the Titans were the pre-Olympian gods.
Central Well of Malebolge, Dante and Virgil approach the Central Well, at the bottom of which lies the Ninth and final Circle of Hell. The classical and biblical Giants – who perhaps symbolise pride and other spiritual flaws lying behind acts of treachery.

cowboys of egos and narcissism
ah finally they took that penis (picture) down - blue origen's


find the link back, mr titanic, how did he get to go in such a scam after knowing better? or was that a scam too, or the old age narc could be so distracted and full of himself to not notice? i guess this

Paul-Henri Nargeolet Nargeolet was one of five people who died aboard the submersible Titan when it imploded on 18 June 2023 near the wreck of the Titanic.
In 1986, the French Research Institute for the Exploitation of the Sea (IFREMER) contacted Nargeolet about diving to the wreck of the Titanic; he heartily agreed to go. With IFREMER, Nargeolet piloted dives to the Titanic wreck site in 1987, 1993, 1994, and 1996.
## En novembre 2018, il devient consultant technique de l'entreprise Caladan Oceanic de Victor Vescovo, notamment sur la mission Titanic Survey Expedition. Le submersible utilisé est le seul à être certifié pour plonger jusqu'à 11 000 mètres de profondeur avec deux personnes à bord ##
lets go english again, Victor Vescovo,
Victor Lance Vescovo (born February 10, 1966) is an American private equity investor, retired naval officer, sub-orbital spaceflight participant, and undersea explorer. He was a co-founder and managing partner of private equity company Insight Equity Holdings from 2000 to 2023. Vescovo achieved the Explorers Grand Slam by reaching the North and South Poles and climbing the Seven Summits. He visited the deepest points of all of Earth's five oceans during the Five Deeps Expedition of 2018–2019.
Blue Origin The passengers of NS-21 were nicknamed the "Crew of Natural Selection".
They included Evan Dick, who previously flew on Blue Origin NS-19, making him the first person to fly on New Shepard twice. Also on board were Katya Echazarreta, who became the first Mexican-born woman and youngest American woman to fly to space, and Victor Vescovo, a notable undersea explorer. The flight made Vescovo the first person to complete the Explorers' Extreme Trifecta, which requires travelling to the bottom of the Challenger Deep and the summit of Mount Everest and flying to space.


Undersea is the new space, ( i'm not going to search links right now)
https://spaceexplored.com/2022/05/09/bl ... aceflight/
'dick holdings', it always weirder than you think

"it's a big club"

The way I look at it is, suppose there are no gods or spirits. Just matter. You live, you die, that's it. A very nihilist perspective.

Then belief in gods and spirits isn't right... or wrong.

I mean, in a land without a spiritual perspective, there can be no heresy. You can't believe the wrong thing, die, and go to hell.

Someone disagrees? Who cares?

So what's left? Life's a stage, you enter stage left, you bow out stage right. Exit.

What matters? In as far as it can be said that anything 'matters', it would have to be the act. The play. Maybe the costuming and props and decorations.

Want Gods? Have Gods.

Eventually, maybe sooner, maybe later, humanity will die out. Then even later, life on earth will die out as the sun expands. And in trillions upon trillions of years, the universe will separate into non existence.

So, have Gods.