Being told "you need to get help" even when WE KNOW...?

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Jayo
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01 Dec 2025, 12:45 pm

How do my fellow ASDers deal with situations where someone gets rather indignant or curt with you and says

"You need to get some serious help." or some variant thereof??

I mean, even in my youth and formative years during the '90s, before I was diagnosed with Asperger's in 2001, I KNEW that I had to get professional psychiatric counseling...but it didn't seem to really help me. Yet I was told this patronizing line quite a few times, usually based on some argument over some unspoken rules or communication or "not seeing the obvious", OR I'd have an angry reaction to something that was a miscommunication -the usual sh*t. :( :x

I got this less after diagnosis and more intensive masking / rehearsal of situations, having garnered that much more insight to it and having a small circle of trusted friends already... the only couple of times I really recall getting it was from someone on the psychopathy spectrum , someone with narcissistic personality traits, and I recognized that as a textbook deflection tactic. :evil:

One time I recall retorting to my antagonist who said that condescending line "Actually, I have, and I was the one who ended up educating the psychiatrist."

Of course, they probably thought I was even more weird after that, or got the impression that nobody gives a damn about people like us, but I didn't care what they thought of me by that point :D



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01 Dec 2025, 1:42 pm

Whether they know or not, they utterly have no clue how to ever.

Thus I DIY.
I take advantage of every little bit of self knowledge, introspection and interoception.


I can do and did my own therapy successfully because professionals have this weird template on them that do not fit me.
An external intervention would assume I need antipsychotic and just "talk it all out" or let it all out -- while I know why I'm chronically irritated was because of chronic breathing issues and the intolerance towards it, and letting it all out to anyone doesn't stop cyclical stupid stories in my head and the maladaptive daydreaming.

To some extent, successfully attain degrees of executive function as a working function and not just as a skill; apparently, I couldn't seem to "learn" that as a manual skill, so I had to figure how to make my mind do it for me.
... To a point I had to get rid of autistic inertia out of the wiring successfully.
Had to figure how to make my head a more reliable servant of my will than a stupid master to be chastise by everyone.

Even the egocentry and the dysregulation for being forcedly "being in my own head" and all that involuntary "self absorb" state.
An external intervention will diagnose me with a personality disorder or some crap like blaming the autism, assuming hurt or whatever assumption they thought was a form of developmental delay.
While I managed to attain them well by meditative practices.


But can I do my own language processing issues?
I don't think most professionals would figure me out right because they are either very focus at speech or oral bits, or in syntax and grammar -- never the internal processes.
No surprises if any external intervention would lead me into a form of scripting instead of an actual language processing upgrade.


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01 Dec 2025, 5:53 pm

If you ever hear the words from someone else ,you need or could use somekind mental Health help . It might be correct to assume they are intending manipulation . imho


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02 Dec 2025, 1:00 am

I've been told that sometimes by online friends & on a forum I used during my early & mid 20s & I actually was seeing a psychiatrist during that time. When I was 20 I fell into a bad somewhat psychotic depression around the time my first relationship fell apart. I spent the next five years seeing a psychiatrist & taking psych meds. I was extremely lonely & desperately seeking another relationship with no luck at all. I kept talking about things online as a coping mechanism, seeking help/advice from others who might understand & relate, & as a way of analyzing & trying to sort things out & help myself. Others got tired of my constant complaining & negative attitude. I also talked about some disturbing adult type stuff. I briefly tried counseling during that time as well. I felt both my counselor & psychiatrist kind of had my causes & effects mixed up & a bit of my diagnoses did not really fit. Some of of the confusion may have been because of the way I explained things & what I talked about. The psych meds probably helped hold me together enough to prevent me from harming myself or others & so I could handle having a job & working a lot though. I'll make an analogy & say the meds were like a band-aid that prevented me from bleeding out but the wound was not healing & I was in constant pain from the cut.

I eventually ticked the members off on the forum I used enough for some to petition to have me banned due to seeing my behavior as trolling. I hated feeling unwanted & I realized it was in all our best interests for me to leave. I also had lost touch with all my online friends but some of that was probably because they got busy offline with life stuff. Shortly after that I weaned myself off my psych meds & quit seeing my psychiatrist partly due to financial reasons. I joined this forum shortly after & overall I found this community a lot more accepting, understanding, relatable, & helpful. I eventually got in my second relationship & after a bit the same problems I had in my first relationship started repeating in my second. I started researching psych meds to help manage the issues, causes, & triggers I felt were the underlying causes of my unstable & other problematic behavior. I asked my GP to prescribe a couple meds which he readily did. My mental health & negative behaviors improved some but it was too little too late to save that relationship. Very shortly after that breakup I got in my current relationship. Cass has her own various issues & understands, relates, & accepts me better than anyone else ever has & I connect better with her than I have with anyone else offline. Moving in with her has majorly improved my mental health & life for the most part. I def still have my own various problems but things don't spiral like they used to. I have made some psych med changes since then but they were all specif med changes that I wanted to make. During the last 14 years I've been trusting my own judgement with psych meds a lot more than I would trust a psychiatrist. I'm still on the first two psych meds I asked a GP for 14 years ago though I did increase the dose of one to the max. I suggested that my girlfriend try those since we have some similar issues & those meds help her more than a lot of other psych meds she tried. She's been seeing a psychiatrist & we like the guy but psych meds have a lot of trial an error & with Cass it seems a lot more error.


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02 Dec 2025, 2:31 pm

People tell me that all the time. It gets to be monotonous. I think they want me to be like them when they tell me such things.


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02 Dec 2025, 6:46 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
People tell me that all the time. It gets to be monotonous. I think they want me to be like them when they tell me such things.


Huh, kinda like those who support conversion therapy for gays and lesbians...geeze!! :( :x
AS IF seeing a psychotherapist will transform or transmute you into a full-on neurotypical...
You should really call them out on that hidden motive, that they want you to be just like them - and then tell them that there hasn't been a single recorded case in history of anyone being "cured" of autism by seeing a psych professional.
Tell them: "You're saying that for YOU, not for me." :x
(However, if they're on the really ignorant side, they might conflate your condition with paranoid schizophrenia after that remark, but then they're REALLY not worth dealing with...)