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Auldyin
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03 Feb 2026, 2:36 pm

Is the " Shock, Horror surprise reaction of all the associates ( MP's, Oligarchs, and society elite ) of Peter Mandelson genuine or just " nothing to do with me Guv "
Or is this a rare insight into the ' us & them ' structure of Capitalism ?



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03 Feb 2026, 3:28 pm

I'm running with the latter like a fireman.


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03 Feb 2026, 5:25 pm

Not sure if capitalism is the cause here. Mandelson, an overweight middle aged man was plied with Epstein's stable of young attractive women and girls. Not rocket science. Epstein used his victims to put powerful and influential men under his control. CIA, Russians and Israeli's have been using honey traps for decades.

Infact during the CIA's MKUltra program (in the 60s and 70s) the CIA used prostitutes on it's own military in secret psychological experiments involving LSD and mind control. US government agencies did equally bad things to it's own citizens (like Tuskegee experiments) under the guise of national security that aren't that far removed from what North Korea, China or Russia have done in secret. None of the people involved in the US were ever investigated (shocking right).

Epstein's involvement with Mossad and such high profile people like the Clintons, prince Andrew or Mandelson means Britain's MI5 and America's FBI and CIA had full knowledge of the sexually deviant conduct of everyone in the Epstein files.

while it might come as a shock to some people over the sexual excesses and possible involvement in ritual torture abuse and (in some cases) murder of children and young people by billionaires, politicians of all persuasions and royalty, such practices have been documented for centuries by historians and probably deserves a separate thread.

I am, however, curious why some individuals (like Peter Mandelson) were selected for special humiliation while many hundreds of others remain protected (at least for now).

Prince Andrew's latest photo showing him on all 4s drooling over what appears to be an unconscious teenage girl is disconcerting given the latest allegation Andrew was an accessory to the disappearance and possible murder of at least one teenage girl.

the timing of all of this is very curious.



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04 Feb 2026, 11:32 am

I agree that this is a " Honey Trap " a strategy that has been used for centuries, but what is the honey in this case ? I assume Mandelson is telling the truth when he says he is gay so it's not girls, I'm sure Epstein could have supplied him with boys, but would a man with his power and influence need a supplier ?
These people who hunger for wealth, power and influence can never get enough. It's a basic human trait to try to show that you're better than the others, and this pervades through all political ideologies from communism to fascism.
While there will always be people on the left who are really only in it for themselves, they are tempered by the need to at least seem to be acting in the common good, while capitalists don't need any excuses, just grab as much as you can.
Capitalism = " Money makes the world go around " that's all that matters, and it justifies the aquisition of power and influence at any cost ( to others ! )



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04 Feb 2026, 5:17 pm

Auldyin wrote:
I agree that this is a " Honey Trap " a strategy that has been used for centuries, but what is the honey in this case ? I assume Mandelson is telling the truth when he says he is gay so it's not girls, I'm sure Epstein could have supplied him with boys, but would a man with his power and influence need a supplier ?


Probably both. Andrew appears to also have a proclivity for boys as well. Nothing unusual, quite common among the elite back in ancient Rome and Greece.