Do I *really* need another contact person for assessment?

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Jane Rain
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10 Feb 2026, 10:47 am

Hi-some folks have gently suggested that I may benefit (even from self knowledge) by moving forward from my clinically indicated level 1 "diagnosis" to a formal medical one. If I did, it would be telehealth only and probably Prosper Health.

But they say they require input from someone who knew me between the ages of 3-5 and potentially another contact, too.

I'm almost 60 years old. My parents have dementia. I have one sibling who's close to my age but he is uninvolved and would be the last person I'd want involved in this. His involvement would be harmful, not helpful.

I've masked well. I have "friends" but I don't have long time super close buddies or anyone close enough who'd I dream of asking to be involved in this.

Oh, and I do not have the name of the provider who told me that I have autism. It was several years ago at a place that had revolving psychologists/psychiatrists, and they are no longer in business. Tbh, I can't even remember the name of that place! I got my validation and that's all I cared about. So they can't provide any feedback or info for the assessment.

But I've struggled my whole life, and a licensed, qualified provider finally told me that I could save myself money and time because he said I clearly have level 1 autism. At this point, that knowledge is enough for me.

But if I did decide to move forward with something more formal, do I really, truly need another person who doesn't know me well (because no one does, although I'm not lonely!) involved in my very private, personal medical diagnosis journey?

Will it make diagnosis harder if I don't provide another name--or will they even take me on?

I also wonder if it will it be a waste if I don't have that other person because they will claim that they can't get enough info and I've spent all that money only to be told that.

However, I can provide plenty of info that would make it clear to them. I have a long history of obvious symptoms, and I was told that already...and also I was told kindly that it's clear to a trained "observer," even with my masking efforts.

Anyone have any insight?

Thank you for reading :D



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10 Feb 2026, 3:13 pm

I suggest you explain the problems to them and offer a selection of folk who have known you the longest (and might cooperate).

Anything in writing from way back from a third-party when might also be of interest...even if the third-party is now deceased.

Note: I'm GUESSING.


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10 Feb 2026, 5:23 pm

I don't think a fully accurate assessment can be made without someone present who knew you as a toddler. You won't have had the self awareness at that age to reliably remember how you behaved. You're already 56 and made it this far without a label so maybe it doesn't matter that much anyway beyond sating curiosity.


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12 Feb 2026, 12:14 am

I have found a place that will assess without a second person. Prosper will not.

I have many stories of issues, past and present, that I can articulate clearly to help them get a very clear picture. And I was already told after a number of visits with a clinician that he feels certain of autism level 1 for me, which he said he was certain that a formal assessment would also find. And yes, it is possible with self reporting for experienced clinicians to assess.

I "made it this far" in great pain. I had to leave full time employment, and even part time employment, because I cannot function in the regular world (I set myself up in a self-employment niche and although I make little money, I have a good reputation for what I do). I consider myself successful in that even though I'm lower income, I do good things in my community through my art. I get invited to perform for events, which I worked hard to be able to do despite my issues. I managed 20 years ago to get a loan for a house, which would not be possible now. I consider myself successful tbh because I'm still alive and I strive to do good things, which makes me happy.

My life is very, very difficult. But I'm a survivor, and that's success to me.

So why might I want an assessment someday?

It was pointed out in another thread that as I get older, I may want or need help. I'm a tough survivor, but I'm getting tired. I've masked for so long and it's working less and less. I don't anticipate needing disability benefits or anything like that. But who knows. My father is undiagnosed formally but has been told by all of his providers that he needs to be assessed because he would qualify for disability because they know he has autism. He has public meltdowns with ER visits where he gets nonverbal and exhibits repetitive motions for hours. He is incapable of 2-way conversation and always has been. He'd easily be identified as having level 2 autism. But he refuses help. I don't want to be like him in refusing help should I need it.

It's also tough to get people to take you seriously without a formal diagnosis. I've already tried to tell a couple friends and they're like "but you can talk, so you aren't autistic!" Or "you? But you're smart!" Ugh.

I told someone who I thought would be supportive and she said if I don't have "papers," then I'm not autistic.

There are no people, at all--literally-- who know me well enough now and no one from childhood who can participate in an assessment.

It's a horrible feeling to finally be facing it after all these years and have people invalidate it. I want to feel proud of who I am and finally grow into myself without shame like the shame and embarrassment I've carried for so long (not that I plan to announce it publicly) but with people thinking that without the formal diagnosis, I'm making it up...even with a shrink's "clinically identified autism" conclusion...is stressful and quite frankly, kinda devastating.

I just want to finally have an official declaration after all these decades of hardships because of it.



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12 Feb 2026, 6:01 am

Jane Rain wrote:
I have found a place that will assess without a second person. Prosper will not.

I have many stories of issues, past and present, that I can articulate clearly to help them get a very clear picture. And I was already told after a number of visits with a clinician that he feels certain of autism level 1 for me, which he said he was certain that a formal assessment would also find. And yes, it is possible with self reporting for experienced clinicians to assess.

I "made it this far" in great pain. I had to leave full time employment, and even part time employment, because I cannot function in the regular world (I set myself up in a self-employment niche and although I make little money, I have a good reputation for what I do). I consider myself successful in that even though I'm lower income, I do good things in my community through my art. I get invited to perform for events, which I worked hard to be able to do despite my issues. I managed 20 years ago to get a loan for a house, which would not be possible now. I consider myself successful tbh because I'm still alive and I strive to do good things, which makes me happy.

My life is very, very difficult. But I'm a survivor, and that's success to me.

So why might I want an assessment someday?

It was pointed out in another thread that as I get older, I may want or need help. I'm a tough survivor, but I'm getting tired. I've masked for so long and it's working less and less. I don't anticipate needing disability benefits or anything like that. But who knows. My father is undiagnosed formally but has been told by all of his providers that he needs to be assessed because he would qualify for disability because they know he has autism. He has public meltdowns with ER visits where he gets nonverbal and exhibits repetitive motions for hours. He is incapable of 2-way conversation and always has been. He'd easily be identified as having level 2 autism. But he refuses help. I don't want to be like him in refusing help should I need it.

It's also tough to get people to take you seriously without a formal diagnosis. I've already tried to tell a couple friends and they're like "but you can talk, so you aren't autistic!" Or "you? But you're smart!" Ugh.

I told someone who I thought would be supportive and she said if I don't have "papers," then I'm not autistic.

There are no people, at all--literally-- who know me well enough now and no one from childhood who can participate in an assessment.

It's a horrible feeling to finally be facing it after all these years and have people invalidate it. I want to feel proud of who I am and finally grow into myself without shame like the shame and embarrassment I've carried for so long (not that I plan to announce it publicly) but with people thinking that without the formal diagnosis, I'm making it up...even with a shrink's "clinically identified autism" conclusion...is stressful and quite frankly, kinda devastating.

I just want to finally have an official declaration after all these decades of hardships because of it.

I am glad you found a place that will do assessments without a second person. They can be hard to find.

I have been reading about how people react to autism revelations since 2013. There is no way to predict how people will react. The people you most expect to be accepting might not be and visa versa. Having a formal diagnosis will make it more likely you will be accepted but it is no guarantee.

The above is not meant to scare you off from what the last sentence in your post tells me you are clearly ready to do. It is to say an autism assessment is about you not them.


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12 Feb 2026, 6:42 am

Jane Rain wrote:
I have found a place that will assess without a second person. Prosper will not.
There are no people, at all--literally-- who know me well enough now and no one from childhood who can participate in an assessment.

It is easier with 'witnesses' but it can be done without.
My mother is still alive and well (at our current age she is basically... my age) but the diagnosis has been done without her. It is not even that uncommon with older people (on the contrary) and if they tell you they can't it is probably they are as so many 'auti care' organizations only dealing with children. My diagnosis center had Disney pictures in the assessment rooms we used but did verify with me if this was ok. There are also clinics where they will supervise you for 3 full days.

Since autism, even the old Asperger, needs to be present since early age it is easier to just ask someone but just watch over here and it is clear people that live undiagnosed for long usually have some identifiable traits. As you mentioned, you made it far in great pain.



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12 Feb 2026, 4:58 pm

If you are doing a reasonably good job of getting along in life then, even with a formal diagnosis, you might sometimes have trouble convincing some people that you are on the Autism Spectrum.

Even if some people you interact with believe that you are Autistic you might have trouble getting some of them to adjust how they interact with you to accommodate your Autism.

Be patient and persistent and good luck!


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13 Feb 2026, 11:36 am

Double Retired wrote:
If you are doing a reasonably good job of getting along in life then, even with a formal diagnosis, you might sometimes have trouble convincing some people that you are on the Autism Spectrum.

Even if some people you interact with believe that you are Autistic you might have trouble getting some of them to adjust how they interact with you to accommodate your Autism.

Be patient and persistent and good luck!


That's such a good point! I was thinking back to when the psych said, "I have a conclusion. Would you like to hear it? Are you certain you want to hear it?" I didn't get it at the time. Why wouldn't I?

At the time I thought I was just a bit weird and wanted to rule out autism. I was so stunned by him saying that I have level 1 autism that I went into denial for 3-4 years.

Now I get why he wanted to be sure if I heard. He understood that it can be hard to accept, even if you have enough signs that you went in to see someone in the first place.

So if *I* couldn't believe it, I supposed I should be prepared for others who won't.

And you're right; it's possible that some will say the docs/therapists must be mistaken, even with a formal medical diagnosis vs. my clinical diagnosis. And much of that is because ppl don't know what autism "looks" like (as if it always has a "look"). I have to admit that I've been in this category most of my life. I don't meltdown, need to be taken by ambulance, and become nonverbal like my father. I don't flap my hands like my grandfather. I'm *not* this or that, like them. So I can't be, right? ha ha

On the other hand, I've slowly started mentioning it to some people and they're like "Yeah? I thought that was understood." lol

There are many more things I need first, like new glasses and other costly things. Since I don't want to be in our state's autism database (required with a formal diagnosis) and hope to not need services, I need to just accept it and do the formal thing if I really feel I need to for whatever reason. But - I can see that I'm flirting with more denial by thinking that I need another layer of diagnosis to believe it.

The way I see it, I have 4 main options: 1) Be horrified when I see signs in me and look away (denial, which I'd done for over 50 years); 2) Be horrified when I recognize signs but start to accept it; 3) Just recognize and accept...be proud of who I am; 4) wobble between all of these as I emerge from denial and shed the shame.



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16 Feb 2026, 11:58 pm

Jane Rain wrote:
Double Retired wrote:
If you are doing a reasonably good job of getting along in life then, even with a formal diagnosis, you might sometimes have trouble convincing some people that you are on the Autism Spectrum.

Even if some people you interact with believe that you are Autistic you might have trouble getting some of them to adjust how they interact with you to accommodate your Autism.

Be patient and persistent and good luck!


That's such a good point! I was thinking back to when the psych said, "I have a conclusion. Would you like to hear it? Are you certain you want to hear it?" I didn't get it at the time. Why wouldn't I?

At the time I thought I was just a bit weird and wanted to rule out autism. I was so stunned by him saying that I have level 1 autism that I went into denial for 3-4 years.

Now I get why he wanted to be sure if I heard. He understood that it can be hard to accept, even if you have enough signs that you went in to see someone in the first place.

So if *I* couldn't believe it, I supposed I should be prepared for others who won't.

And you're right; it's possible that some will say the docs/therapists must be mistaken, even with a formal medical diagnosis vs. my clinical diagnosis. And much of that is because ppl don't know what autism "looks" like (as if it always has a "look"). I have to admit that I've been in this category most of my life. I don't meltdown, need to be taken by ambulance, and become nonverbal like my father. I don't flap my hands like my grandfather. I'm *not* this or that, like them. So I can't be, right? ha ha

On the other hand, I've slowly started mentioning it to some people and they're like "Yeah? I thought that was understood." lol

There are many more things I need first, like new glasses and other costly things. Since I don't want to be in our state's autism database (required with a formal diagnosis) and hope to not need services, I need to just accept it and do the formal thing if I really feel I need to for whatever reason. But - I can see that I'm flirting with more denial by thinking that I need another layer of diagnosis to believe it.

The way I see it, I have 4 main options: 1) Be horrified when I see signs in me and look away (denial, which I'd done for over 50 years); 2) Be horrified when I recognize signs but start to accept it; 3) Just recognize and accept...be proud of who I am; 4) wobble between all of these as I emerge from denial and shed the shame.

I am not proud or ashamed about being autistic because being born this way I had nothing to with it. I am proud of the things I accomplished despite neither me or anybody else knowing I am autistic. For a period of time probably you are going to be in number 4. As you said baby steps.


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