Vatican excommunicates followers of global Catholic sect

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30 Jul 2026, 8:59 pm

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The Vatican has excommunicated followers of a conservative Catholic splinter sect, the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), a day after it consecrated four new bishops against Pope Leo XIV's direct instruction.

In a decree, it said the Society's total of six bishops were excommunicated - and, in a highly unusual move, it added that any lay members who "formally adhere" to the group "are to be considered schismatic and excommunicated".

But those who left the SSPX would be welcomed back "with sincere affection".

The Vatican later clarified that not all members would be excommunicated automatically, but those who "habitually participate" in SSPX celebrations and "formally share its doctrinal positions" would be.

The SSPX was founded in 1970 in opposition to the modernising reforms made by the Roman Catholic Church in the 1960s, at what was known as the Second Vatican Council. The Society is thought to number around 600,000 worshippers globally.

In response to the Vatican's decree, Rita Reid, an SSPX worshipper from Jersey in the Channel Islands, said: "It actually makes me feel quite strong.

"Before the consecrations yesterday I said to my husband, 'Do you know what? Even if they excommunicate us, go ahead, bring it on, it's not going to make one bit of difference.'"

The Society rejects changes made to how Mass is celebrated - for example it still holds its services in Latin rather than everyday language, and priests face the altar rather than the congregation.

In SSPX Masses the communion bread has to be given straight into the mouths of kneeling worshippers by the priest, as opposed to churchgoers being able to stand and hold it themselves.

Women in the group also tend to cover their heads for services and followers of SSPX tend to be more socially conservative in general.

The SSPX also opposes the modern Catholic Church's stance on more dialogue with other Christian denominations and other faiths.

For Rita, 76, SSPX ceremonies are much more "profound", where she feels "the true presence of Jesus".

She says there is no comparison with the standard Catholic Mass, which she describes as "so weak and wishy-washy".

The retired B&B owner used to attend modern Catholic services as well as SSPX ones, but complained that in the standard Mass traditional social values - like no sex before marriage - was no longer taught.

"I think a lot of young people now that go to novus ordo [the standard liturgy] think 'oh well, it's all right, we can do these things'."

The Society's main presence is in the US and France but it holds Masses at 26 locations around the UK, from Lerwick in Shetland down to Devon, with its main centre being in Wimbledon, South London.

At one point in the 1980s, bishops from the Society were excommunicated for disobeying Rome, but that decision was later reversed.

More recently, efforts had been made to reconcile with the SSPX, but the Vatican's response to this week's events was more aggressive than before, and more severe than predicted.

It was widely expected that Wednesday's event in Écône, in the Swiss canton of Valais, would lead to excommunication of the bishops involved.

But the excommunication of all those lay people who continue to be a part of SSPX was a surprise to many, with the traditionalist group now as far from the centre of power of the Roman Catholic Church as it has ever been.

Excommunication is one of the harshest punishments that can be given by the Church, effectively expelling the offender from the religion and excluding them from Catholic life.

It means a baptised follower is "out of communion" with the Church - meaning they cannot receive the sacraments, for example going to confession, or get married within the Roman Catholic Church.

The Vatican said on Thursday: "The sacred ministers of the Society of St Pius X administer the sacraments illicitly, while the sacrament of penance they administer and the marriages they witness are invalid."

It means SSPX members now have to choose whether to stay part of a group that is in "schism", or leave behind the things they believe are right in order to stay part of the Catholic Church.

However it is clear that many SSPX members believe it is the Vatican that has moved away from true doctrine, not them.


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01 Aug 2026, 4:42 am

I was baptised a Catholic as a child and went to a Catholic school from 4 to 19. I consider myself a non denominational today although I respected different church's and still respect the Catholic church. I do hope that some conflict resolution can be had between both of the groups. Jesus did say where two or three of you are gathered..there am I in the midst of them and this is about conflict resolution and mediation.
Perhaps there is no way forward the splinter group should join Anglo Catholics. They are Anglicans who are quite Catholic based in their worship.


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02 Aug 2026, 1:44 am

RachObi wrote:
I was baptised a Catholic as a child and went to a Catholic school from 4 to 19. I consider myself a non denominational today although I respected different church's and still respect the Catholic church. I do hope that some conflict resolution can be had between both of the groups. Jesus did say where two or three of you are gathered..there am I in the midst of them and this is about conflict resolution and mediation.
Perhaps there is no way forward the splinter group should join Anglo Catholics. They are Anglicans who are quite Catholic based in their worship.

welcome back RachObi. Good to see you again.



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02 Aug 2026, 2:11 am

when isn't britain the bravest gardian dog for the vatican, in the geopolitical sense
smoke and theatre



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02 Aug 2026, 5:51 pm

traven wrote:
when isn't britain the bravest gardian dog for the vatican, in the geopolitical sense
smoke and theatre


How is Britain relevant to this story about a French traditionalist Catholic sect?

Here's some basic background on the SSPX/Lefebvrites for anyone who isn't familiar with the sect:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X


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02 Aug 2026, 8:46 pm

RachObi wrote:
I was baptised a Catholic as a child and went to a Catholic school from 4 to 19. I consider myself a non denominational today although I respected different church's and still respect the Catholic church. I do hope that some conflict resolution can be had between both of the groups. Jesus did say where two or three of you are gathered..there am I in the midst of them and this is about conflict resolution and mediation.
Perhaps there is no way forward the splinter group should join Anglo Catholics. They are Anglicans who are quite Catholic based in their worship.


They don't really share much common ground with Anglo Catholics as a whole. There's three major strains of Anglo-Catholicism and two of those are even less theologically aligned with SSPX than the Roman Catholic Church is.

Traditionalist Anglo Catholics and the Continuing Anglican movement share the most common ground with SSPX, but deviate on some important issues (like the Latin Mass and papal infallibility).

There's also Old Catholic churches that they might share common ground with, but Traditionalist Catholics aren't the same as Old Catholics. Old Catholics reject papal infallibility, Traditionalist Catholics seem to doublethink their position, where they can accept the concept of papal infallibility but still label certain church decisions as heretical.

It seems unlikely that the SSPX would find enough common ground with any of these groups to bother joining with them. It seems like the Catholic-but-not-in-communion-with-Rome world has too many disagreements within itself for a broader 'United Independent Catholic Church' to emerge from the various pieces merging.


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03 Aug 2026, 1:57 am

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
RachObi wrote:
I was baptised a Catholic as a child and went to a Catholic school from 4 to 19. I consider myself a non denominational today although I respected different church's and still respect the Catholic church. I do hope that some conflict resolution can be had between both of the groups. Jesus did say where two or three of you are gathered..there am I in the midst of them and this is about conflict resolution and mediation.
Perhaps there is no way forward the splinter group should join Anglo Catholics. They are Anglicans who are quite Catholic based in their worship.

welcome back RachObi. Good to see you again.


Thank you Texasmoneyman300. The same to you as well.



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03 Aug 2026, 1:59 am

funeralxempire wrote:
RachObi wrote:
I was baptised a Catholic as a child and went to a Catholic school from 4 to 19. I consider myself a non denominational today although I respected different church's and still respect the Catholic church. I do hope that some conflict resolution can be had between both of the groups. Jesus did say where two or three of you are gathered..there am I in the midst of them and this is about conflict resolution and mediation.
Perhaps there is no way forward the splinter group should join Anglo Catholics. They are Anglicans who are quite Catholic based in their worship.


They don't really share much common ground with Anglo Catholics as a whole. There's three major strains of Anglo-Catholicism and two of those are even less theologically aligned with SSPX than the Roman Catholic Church is.

Traditionalist Anglo Catholics and the Continuing Anglican movement share the most common ground with SSPX, but deviate on some important issues (like the Latin Mass and papal infallibility).

There's also Old Catholic churches that they might share common ground with, but Traditionalist Catholics aren't the same as Old Catholics. Old Catholics reject papal infallibility, Traditionalist Catholics seem to doublethink their position, where they can accept the concept of papal infallibility but still label certain church decisions as heretical.

It seems unlikely that the SSPX would find enough common ground with any of these groups to bother joining with them. It seems like the Catholic-but-not-in-communion-with-Rome world has too many disagreements within itself for a broader 'United Independent Catholic Church' to emerge from the various pieces merging.


Thank you for explaining funeralxempire. I will wait and watch and see what happens.



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09 Aug 2026, 8:47 pm

Back in the 2010's I was actually looking at SSPX. Apparently they have a church in my city, and I kind of agree with them that Vatican II probably lead to people treating both mass and Catholicism itself like a joke.


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